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28 Jul 2023
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDaniel
In reply to @rd2:matrix.org
I am trying to get a battery bms that suits the logic board to evade having to install a buck converter
Typically a bms won't regulate voltage, it only controls charging and maybe has a current limit
13:39:42
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2I am trying to rely on bmp that has suitable overchange and undercharge protection13:40:19
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielBatteries do not have an inherently stable voltage13:40:37
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielYou will need a regulator somewhere13:40:48
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielUnless your circuit can tolerate a voltage swing of a few volts13:41:09
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2there are these smart bmses that you can enter values via software so you can control the protection range13:41:22
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielThat only controls the max/min voltage of the pack13:41:42
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDaniel Which dramatically reduces capacity 13:41:52
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2even you can control current13:42:07
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielFor example if you run a 3s lipo pack from 12.6-12.0v you're using only 20% of capacity13:43:02
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDaniel
In reply to @rd2:matrix.org
even you can control current
Only a cutout typically
13:43:11
@rd2:matrix.orgrd24s1p is 12.8V nominal this is better13:44:45
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2I like lfp pouches because they utilize space better but I could not find a pack of 12.8V 20A with good mechanical and bms protection13:46:24
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielWhat chemistry?13:46:27
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2lfp13:46:41
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielLiFePo4?13:46:58
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2yes13:47:03
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielAh ok13:47:34
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2I guess I am getting close every day. thank you for your support13:48:21
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2 * I guess I am getting closer every day. thank you for your support13:48:33
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielSo 12.8-12.0v gets you 10%13:49:45
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielYou can search something like "lifepo4 voltage charge chart" to get an idea13:50:33
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDaniel
In reply to @rd2:matrix.org
I guess I am getting close every day. thank you for your support
I really think you should just use a buck regulator, they're cheap and efficient and it's how basically all battery powered computers work
13:51:19
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2so these laptop batteries rely on a regulator?13:53:18
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2swapable batteries13:53:44
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielYes13:54:05
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2also I have discovered that the fan of mac mini m2 pro do not run until the processor temp pass 100c13:55:01
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielWow13:55:16
@rd2:matrix.orgrd2 * also I have discovered that the fan of mac mini m2 pro do not run until the processor temp passes 100c13:55:20
@danielp3344:matrix.orgDanielThat's pretty hot13:55:20

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