| 14 Aug 2020 |
 antonela | thank you in advance! haha | 14:51:11 |
 n8fr8 | https://theonline.town/ | 14:52:58 |
| antonela | oh yes, thank you so much! i knew i was not that crazy and the thing exists :) | 14:53:19 |
| 18 Aug 2020 |
 @eighthave:matrix.org | I'm surprised that the NY Times post https://open.nytimes.com/how-the-new-york-times-thinks-about-your-privacy-bc07d2171531 is quite disengenuous | 15:31:39 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | "We have completely rewritten our Privacy Policy with legibility in mind (now rated at a 7-year-old readability level)" | 15:31:58 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | what 7 year old knows "Social Media Platforms and Other Third-Party Services" or "If you save a location-based search in your history, that data moves to our service provider’s servers", or would read something like this https://www.nytimes.com/privacy/privacy-policy | 15:33:12 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | I think people who are so deeply immersed in adtech have a really hard time stepping out and seeing things from the user's perspectivee | 15:34:25 |
| 20 Aug 2020 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | n8fr8: crwinfrey: did you see the W3C's effort to standardize the vocabulary around privacy: https://www.w3.org/ns/dpv "Data Privacy Vocabulary v0.1" ? | 09:07:19 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | seems worth weighing in on | 09:07:25 |
 irl | heh, interesting that they would define it as an rdf ontology, that's a very w3c thing to do | 09:32:34 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | indeed | 11:32:19 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | its intense. seems like there are some parts that would be useful, since it came out of multiple meetings and dicsussions | 11:32:56 |
| irl | yeah definitely. | 11:33:48 |
| n8fr8 | In reply to @eighthave:matrix.org
I think people who are so deeply immersed in adtech have a really hard time stepping out and seeing things from the user's perspectivee I really want a Creative Commons style approach to privacy policies to exist. There has to be an easier way to sum up the various aspects into a few key variables. | 11:39:40 |
| n8fr8 | Have a standard baseline, and then explain the diffs your policy has through some kind of iconography | 11:40:07 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | yeah, standard, vetted privacy policies is really the way to go | 11:40:57 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | there could be the GNU Privacy Plicy, the Apache, CC, etc. | 11:41:19 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | EFF has an effort there | 11:41:28 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | n8fr8: I see your contempt emoji for the W3C thing, and get it. But I have to say: these things have to be formally defined to be implemented in law, and I think we support GDPR and laws like it | 11:43:12 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | reminds me of dealing with the people who are deep in crypto | 11:43:41 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | I'm currently having a classic discussion with the maker of a "smartcard" HSM hardware who requires an arcane, poorly documentated procedure to import keys to the thing | 11:44:59 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | because "as the key material traverses a lot of unprotected interfaces (PC/SC API, CCID API, USB-HW, Reader, CL or CC interface" | 11:45:24 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | he means the software installed on the computer and the USB reader hardware | 11:45:55 |
| @eighthave:matrix.org | that's full paranoid to the extreme | 11:49:26 |
| n8fr8 | It was meant more as a "hmmmmmm" emoji and not contempt. Guess I should be more careful! | 11:50:44 |
| 9 Sep 2020 |
|  irl joined the room. | 12:56:44 |
| irl set a profile picture. | 12:58:49 |
| 20 Sep 2020 |
| irl changed their profile picture. | 19:58:32 |
| 19 Oct 2020 |
 RSS Bot [@eighthave:matrix.org] | En Garde! The Guardian Project Podcast:
Giving Permission | 19:09:39 |
| n8fr8 | crwinfrey: trob finally up! | 19:10:05 |
