| 29 May 2020 |
 Nathan GP (he) | Taking a break for now! | 17:43:22 |
 crwinfrey | Awesome!!! Thank you n8fr8 ! | 18:01:39 |
| 1 Jun 2020 |
 RSS Bot [@eighthave:matrix.org] (deprecated) | En Garde! The Guardian Project Podcast:
Dot not turn away in difficult moments | 15:58:49 |
| crwinfrey | https://medium.com/@jnameloc/heres-how-long-it-would-take-to-read-all-the-privacy-updates-you-ve-been-getting-cd4f215cff6d | 15:59:43 |
| crwinfrey | Ok. This article is from 2018. But the author gives an incredible breakdown of the time it takes to read privacy policies. | 16:01:12 |
| Nathan GP (he) | That is a great metric. | 16:01:45 |
| crwinfrey | Which, in today's world of giving consent, you could say to be able to give informed consent, you must read the privacy policy.. | 16:01:45 |
| Nathan GP (he) | Heres the link to the post on ditching Google Analytics that I emailed out: https://missiveapp.com/blog/privacy-first-analytics | 16:01:54 |
| Nathan GP (he) | Privacy polices != user interface | 16:02:09 |
| crwinfrey | "How to run analytics without a consent banner? It is simple; don't use cookies nor collect personal information." | 16:02:55 |
 gina_h | In reply to @crwinfrey:matrix.org
Ok. This article is from 2018. But the author gives an incredible breakdown of the time it takes to read privacy policies. https://www.cyberwonka.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Screenshot_4.jpg | 16:03:01 |
| crwinfrey | YES! Thank you gina_h. I was trying to find this image over the weekend. | 16:03:44 |
 georgia | there was an art installation that someone did re: privacy policies a few years back. Ame from our team uses it in most of her talks. I can find it... | 16:35:15 |
| georgia | https://mymodernmet.com/social-media-policy-infographics-dima-yarovinsky/ | 16:42:55 |
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 trob | Tomorrow is Tuesday, which means another LIVE Symposium session! 🎉 Join us 10am EST https://meet.keanu.im/cleanInsightsLive | 23:58:11 |
| 2 Jun 2020 |
 _hc | about the privacy policies, I think there is a lot of promise to the EFF Do Not Track policy, and also the example set by GPL/Apache-2.0 for licenses and the Apache CLA for Contributor License Agreements. | 12:05:39 |
| _hc | basically, we need standardized, codified privacy policies. Then users can actually review them, since they will apply widely. | 12:06:07 |
| _hc | right now, each site has its own gianormous text | 12:06:17 |
| _hc | if there were say 5-10 standard privacy policy texts that could be mixed and matched, then people could take the time to understand them, since it would mean reading one policy that applies to all sites, in an ideal world | 12:07:26 |
| _hc | Creative Commons did a version of this with their various licenses | 12:07:50 |
| Nathan GP (he) | In reply to @eighthave:matrix.org
if there were say 5-10 standard privacy policy texts that could be mixed and matched, then people could take the time to understand them, since it would mean reading one policy that applies to all sites, in an ideal world 👏 | 12:07:55 |
| _hc | while the Creative Commons UX design around the different license clauses is quite good, I think their approach to licensing is fundamentally flawed | 12:08:29 |
| _hc | so its a more difficult example to draw from | 12:08:54 |
| Nathan GP (he) | Let's talk about this on the live call! | 12:17:53 |
| Nathan GP (he) | In reply to @eighthave:matrix.org
while the Creative Commons UX design around the different license clauses is quite good, I think their approach to licensing is fundamentally flawed 👻 | 12:45:10 |
| _hc | ok! | 12:47:36 |
| Nathan GP (he) | hmmm, still sending our quick repsonse as replies and not m.reaction! :) | 13:51:01 |
| trob | We are live https://meet.keanu.im/cleanInsightsLive | 14:07:24 |
| Nathan GP (he) | Internet issue m. One moment | 14:12:30 |
