| 13 Jan 2023 |
 pj | there is 6 people total banned on Discord (and those are actual users) | 14:43:59 |
 Porkepix | Well, I guess there are much bigger targets for scam on Discord, though | 14:45:03 |
| pj | @Crow y u no sync the ban list here | 14:45:13 |
 welteam | Spam is more present on discord than on matrix but the communities targeted aren't the same. On discord it's mostly political and crypto communities, on matrix software projects are more important targets.
I understand moderations tools are better on discord tho | 14:47:20 |
| welteam | * Spam is more present on discord than on matrix but the communities targeted aren't the same. On discord it's mostly political and crypto communities, on matrix software projects are more important targets.
I heard moderations tools are better on discord tho | 14:47:45 |
| pj | In reply to@welteam:matrix.org
Spam is more present on discord than on matrix but the communities targeted aren't the same. On discord it's mostly political and crypto communities, on matrix software projects are more important targets.
I understand moderations tools are better on discord tho on Discord it's every massively popular guild/server | 14:47:53 |
| welteam | * Spam is more present on discord than on matrix but the communities targeted aren't the same. On discord it's mostly political and crypto communities, on matrix software projects are more important targets.
I heard moderation tools are better on discord tho | 14:47:56 |
| pj | because they usually join servers, get all users in guild and send scam via DMs | 14:48:33 |
| Porkepix | Lovely. | 14:48:53 |
| Porkepix | And some people wonders why I'm better off on my platforms used by 0.01% of people :D | 14:49:28 |
| pj | thing is, matrix only has kick/ban, and mjolnir is weak but I'm using it to protect all rooms with just single command | 14:49:39 |
| pj | Discord is now much more better due to automod | 14:49:56 |
| pj | In reply to@Porkepix:matrix.org
Eh, surprised of the :kde.org one, I'd have bet the people that could get :kde.org handles were tied to a LDAP or something equivalent that's actually the only real user banned on matrix which started arguing with me and spammed | 14:50:51 |
| pj | if I remember correctly | 14:51:05 |
| pj | * because they usually join servers via public invites, get all users in guild and send scam via DMs | 14:51:36 |
|  @malte:mcloud.digital left the room. | 14:53:10 |
| pj | another problem here is that I do not own the lapce matrix space and I don't even have full admin over it, so I can't implement moderation bot completely | 14:53:13 |
| pj | (and our moderation room is encrypted and mjolnir/pantailaimon sucks) | 14:53:59 |
| pj | it's all hacked currently to just work ™️ | 14:54:07 |
| pj | running from my NAS server lol | 14:54:27 |
| Porkepix | On that regard I guess just contacting matrix.org admin would do the trick considering you're maintainer of the project on github and that the chan is related. The same way I already saw this to be done on freenode/libera when you prove you're part of the project (though I'd agree it'd definitely be better to have this somewhere else than matrix.org, so that the federation part doesn't just look like an ad when the reality is that most of people are on that very same server :d) | 14:56:17 |
| Porkepix | Poor NAS :D | 14:56:40 |
| pj | I mean, I can ask the space owner | 14:56:50 |
| pj | but it was enough bother to just get perms and setup mjolnir | 14:57:23 |
| pj | they are also massive proponent of matrix and don't even read this channel, smh | 14:57:42 |
| pj | @varlad | 14:58:09 |
| pj | smh my smh | 14:58:23 |
| Porkepix | Definitely not proponent of Matrix, I've quite a couple of things I'm unhappy with regarding it. Though that's still a much better choice than Discord, at least for me. | 14:59:53 |
| pj | matrix also had fundamental flaws in architecture | 15:01:01 |
| pj | like if homeserver dies and it basically cuts you off from communication | 15:01:23 |
