| 19 Mar 2024 |
 vkrause | their feeds partly overlap, need keys, can't be accessed from Github or don't work at all, so practically this needs manual review in most cases. Scaling up slowly also helps a lot with identifying and resolving issues in MOTIS, and initially we didn't expect we could add that many feeds at all. | 15:42:55 |
| vkrause | for countries with many non-aggregated feeds like France we'll likely need to automate that indeed though | 15:44:00 |
 Alexandre Franke | France is actually what I am interested in. 🙂 | 15:47:23 |
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| vkrause | Has anyone looked at Open Route Service for this? Just talked to one of its developers here, seems to tick all the boxes, GPL, has a supposedly fast Matrix API and a publicly available instance to test with. | 14:35:38 |
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 PartTimeDataScientist | I only know this overview: https://gis-ops.com/de/open-source-routing-engines-and-algorithms-an-overview/
Seems to have some other disadvantages and might also be too ressource hungry for the full planet... | 15:06:34 |
| vkrause | that comparison is 4y old though, they apparently got quite some BKG funding in recent years, so not all of that might still be current. Information I got for RAM costs here are a bit inconclusive still, probably needs testing | 16:07:35 |
 Gerd Castan | In reply to @vkrause:kde.org
Has anyone looked at Open Route Service for this? Just talked to one of its developers here, seems to tick all the boxes, GPL, has a supposedly fast Matrix API and a publicly available instance to test with. From a client perspective (I did not run a server), ORS is optimised for humans, GraphHopper is optimized for delivery businesses. In ORS, you get information how green, silent, or usable for wheelchairs each part of the route is. GraphHopper can optimise routes for delivery vehicles. If the rest (server, fit for Motis) is comparable, I'd say ORS is a much better value for humans using a routing server like Motis. | 20:44:13 |
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| 24 Mar 2024 |
 Maël | Did someone ever tried to load all the files from https://transport.data.gouv.fr/api/datasets in motis ? | 16:05:39 |
| Maël | If you're interested only by the scope of France, I don't yet see the interest of transitous's feed agregation.
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| Maël | The scripts to launch a motis server can be useful though | 16:07:17 |
 JBB | In reply to @maelito:matrix.org
Did someone ever tried to load all the files from https://transport.data.gouv.fr/api/datasets in motis ? Not that I know, but that looks like an easy target to generate a transitous json file from | 16:14:23 |
| Maël | * Did someone ever try to load all the files from https://transport.data.gouv.fr/api/datasets in motis ? | 16:15:28 |
| Maël | Yes, for the european instance. For a french instance, better create a motis config file straight from the official source, and update it through the API. That's what I'm doing on github.com/laem/gtfs | 16:17:53 |
| 27 Mar 2024 |
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| 28 Mar 2024 |
 holger | More than 5 years ago, we started the github.com/mfdz/GTFS-Issues highlight transit data quality issues. Today we added an English README and invite all GTFS(-RT) consumers and producers to report and discuss issues there (in case the producer does not provide an issue tracker on it’s own) | 11:25:27 |
| vkrause | btw, are you aware of what the BKG is doing around GTFS/stop registry data? saw this mentioned in https://pretalx.com/fossgis2024/talk/FP9ZVU/ at 16:50, unfortunately only after the event | 12:17:30 |
| holger | Not yet. Thx for the pointer! | 12:19:34 |
| vkrause | doesn't sound particularly elaborate in the talk, but as they tend to have resources, influence and generally seem like the "good guys" regarding open data/OSM collaboration that could still be interesting | 12:19:37 |
| PartTimeDataScientist | Nonetheless it seems desirable to not tackle the problem at so many different places.
Maybe we should point the BKG to the Norwegian approach and let them use their resources and influence to set up something similar for Germany... 🤔😄 | 12:40:04 |
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 mlundblad | I created a tracking issue for North American coverage, similar to the one for Europe: https://github.com/public-transport/transitous/issues/201 | 08:57:11 |
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