| 12 May 2017 |
 Thea | it's a big group and they gave me a lot of valuable feedback | 00:05:09 |
| Thea | in fact Richard Clark who is in here can give you chapter and verse about the South West :-) | 00:05:42 |
| Thea | It looks so good but is a google doc - how did you do that? | 00:06:54 |
| Thea | also - are some constituencies missing? | 00:07:48 |
 Sue - Represent Us | yes - it should probably be clearer - these are our provisional targets only. Don't have capacity to research 650 so we have chosen the most susceptible 150 | 00:18:56 |
| 15 May 2017 |
|  Grebehead joined the room. | 08:12:43 |
| Grebehead | Hi, I'm frustrated that Labour in Canterbury are trying to present themselves as the best choice to oust the Tories. The Lib Dems vote share increased in May and they won seats locally (one in the consituency and one in the neighbouring constituency which will become part of the same constituency after the boundary changes) whereas the Labour lost everything and polled 2% lower approximately. Labour beat the Libs in 2015 (unsurprisingly) but came a poor third after the Libs in 2010. The Libs had many more seats on the council than Labour did - even when Tony Blair was at the height of his popularity. Labour only managed to pull equal with the Lib Dems when the Lib Dems were at the depth of their unpopularity.
The Labour candidate is now supporting Brexit, whereas the Lib Dem candidate supports remain - in a constituency which voted remain and has a leave MP.
To be honest, this data is being used to get political capital and the fact that the recommendation is split is actually making a Tory victory more likely. I haven't ever been involved with the Lib Dems before, but I've moved to them because I think they stand the best chance of getting rid of the Tories locally. However, if you don't agree with me I still think it would be better to pick a side to back between Lab/Libs just to heal the split in the 'progressive' vote. | 09:29:27 |
| Thea | Hi - and welcome | 09:31:22 |
| Grebehead | Hi, sorry for my rant | 09:32:07 |
| Thea | At the moment, Canterbury is down as TBC - Lib Dem, because I thought the data pointed towards them as the more tactical candidate | 09:32:17 |
| Thea | however, I have received an amount of pressure on this seat to move it to Labour because of the Progressive Alliance supporting Labour | 09:32:50 |
| Grebehead | That isn't true or fair. | 09:33:11 |
| Thea | well it is true isn't it? | 09:33:22 |
| Thea | fair or not | 09:33:27 |
| Grebehead | Labour turned down the opportunity to meet with the other parties regarding a PA | 09:33:34 |
| Grebehead | And secondly, the PA recommendation is based solely on the 2015 general election income | 09:33:58 |
| Grebehead | According to their website | 09:34:04 |
| Thea | http://www.progressivealliance.org.uk/vote-smart?constituency=E14000619 | 09:34:18 |
| Grebehead | brb | 09:36:10 |
| Thea | Having said that, I haven't changed my recommendation purely on this information at the moment because I don't get the reasoning, but it is on my list for constituencies to monitor because of seemingly differing opinions on the tactical choice | 09:36:22 |
| Grebehead | Irritatingly I can't find the bit on their website which explained the logic behind the recommendation. It said in black and white that it was based on the 2015 election result. | 09:40:00 |
| Grebehead | But I can provide lots of stats if you're interested? | 09:40:33 |
| Thea | more than I already have? | 09:40:53 |
| Grebehead | I've seen the logic on the spreadsheet and there is more. | 09:41:36 |
| Grebehead | And also one bit is inaccurate on your spreadsheet. | 09:42:09 |
| Grebehead | In the 2017 locals the Lib Dems polled approximately 2% higher than Labour - your spreadsheet says Labour received 166 more votes. | 09:43:07 |
| Thea | More data with sources (so I don't have to go and locate them) is good | 09:43:14 |
| Grebehead | I say approximately because two of the wards cover two constituencies - so the best estimate is to halve the votes cast in those wards. | 09:43:56 |
| Thea | The data I used for that was http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/kent-local-elections-results-2017-canterbury-1-5002550 | 09:46:54 |
| Thea | comparing the Lib Dem and Labour votes | 09:47:08 |
