| 12 Dec 2023 |
 Bernhard Krabina | Yes, we were on lunch break | 14:19:06 |
| 13 Dec 2023 |
 Alexander Mashin | In reply to @krabina:matrix.org
Yes, we were on lunch break "Ja, wir waren on lunch break". I meant the verb ist. | 01:48:58 |
 Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) | No, it was not deliberate. | 09:04:13 |
| Bernhard Krabina | 
Download 1000064147.jpg | 13:57:52 |
| Bernhard Krabina | Greetings from Paderborn! | 13:57:55 |
 Joris | Nice! Greetings back from 20 meters to your left | 14:00:36 |
| 14 Dec 2023 |
 justinl | I'm testing my upgraded MW 1.39 wikis but SMW only got upgraded from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2. However, even after update.php, the .smw.json file still shows the previous version as 3.2.3 with the latest being 4.0.2, with a timestamp from the last major upgrade in 2022. As such, the Special:SemanticMediaWiki page still reports out of date table optimization:
The system has found that the last table optimization was run 503 days ago (record from 2022-07-29 01:32) which exceeds the 90 days maintenance threshold. As mentioned in the documentation, running optimizations will allow the query planner to make better decisions about queries therefore it is suggested to run the table optimization on a regular basis.
Is this something I need to be concerned about?
| 16:31:42 |
| 15 Dec 2023 |
| Bernhard Krabina | Please give us feedback to SMWCon (even if you did not attend this time):
https://survey.knowledge.wiki/index.php/593459?lang=en | 19:15:50 |
| 18 Dec 2023 |
| justinl | Per https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/4727 regarding the parser unification project, is there any ETA on an update to SMW with an alternative to the in-text annotation bracket syntax? | 21:39:17 |
| justinl | Ok, ignore my question, I've been corrected. | 22:02:15 |
| justinl | Unrelated to my above question but related to the empty/incomplete query results problem (https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/5392), the latest post there reminded me of seeing that same error back in 1.34 and 1.35, which had led to this email to the semediawiki-user list back in 2021 that got no responses. Thought I'd ask about it here and see if it's at all possibly related, and what it even means.
https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/5392 | 23:02:25 |
| justinl | * Unrelated to my above question but related to the empty/incomplete query results problem (https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/5392), the latest post there reminded me of seeing that same error back in 1.34 and 1.35, which had led to this email to the semediawiki-user list back in 2021 that got no responses. Thought I'd ask about it here and see if it's at all possibly related, and what it even means.
https://sourceforge.net/p/semediawiki/mailman/message/37281997/ | 23:02:45 |
| justinl | * Unrelated to my above question but related to the empty/incomplete query results problem (https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/5392), the latest post there reminded me of seeing that same error back in 1.34 and 1.35, which had led to this email to the semediawiki-user list back in 2021 that got no responses. Thought I'd ask about it here and see if it's at all possibly related, and what it even means.
https://sourceforge.net/p/semediawiki/mailman/message/37281997/
| 23:02:55 |
| 19 Dec 2023 |
|  Georgios Mavropalias changed their profile picture. | 14:26:05 |
|  adam ~ @adinfinitum:mozilla.org joined the room. | 22:46:51 |
| 20 Dec 2023 |
| justinl | Is anyone here using SMW with DPL3? One of our editors just reported that they can reproduce a bug occurring in a specific template that uses both SMW and DPL3 where the SMW properties get removed when Purging the page. | 22:41:21 |
| justinl | He says he can't find any reported issues in either SMW or DPL3 repos. | 22:41:46 |
| 25 Dec 2023 |
 Bertrand Gorge | We do. And we sometimes lose our smw properties for some given page then it comes back. It's better now but I can't tell what exactly is the reproduction scenario | 07:11:53 |
| 26 Dec 2023 |
 Kimmy Brewer | Hello! We're running into an upgrade key error. SMW v 4.0.2, MW v 1.39.1, Code: Error_Schema_Invalid_Key. We have tried running the update.php, setupStore.php, as well as an importDump.xml file which I noticed the previous dev team used to work around this issue months ago. We keep running into this error on the pipeline: | 18:20:44 |
| Kimmy Brewer | PHP Fatal error: Uncaught Exception: Unable to open file /var/www/mediawiki/w/extensions/AdminLinks/extension.json: filemtime(): stat failed for /var/www/mediawiki/w/extensions/AdminLinks/extension.json in /var/www/mediawiki/w/includes/registration/ExtensionRegistry.php:199Stack trace:
#0 /var/www/mediawiki/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(53): ExtensionRegistry->queue('/var/www/mediaw...')
#1 /mediawiki/config/LocalSettings.php(206): wfLoadExtension('AdminLinks')
#2 /var/www/mediawiki/w/CanastaDefaultSettings.php(73): require_once('/mediawiki/conf...')
#3 /var/www/mediawiki/w/LocalSettings.php(8): require_once('/var/www/mediaw...')
#4 /var/www/mediawiki/w/includes/Setup.php(218): require_once('/var/www/mediaw...')
#5 /var/www/mediawiki/w/maintenance/doMaintenance.php(83): require_once('/var/www/mediaw...')
#6 /var/www/mediawiki/w/maintenance/importDump.php(369): require_once('/var/www/mediaw...')
#7 {main} thrown in /var/www/mediawiki/w/includes/registration/ExtensionRegistry.php on line 199 | 18:21:50 |
| Kimmy Brewer | Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. | 18:24:48 |
| Bernhard Krabina | Try removing AdminLinks extension (that is mentioned in the error) | 18:43:57 |
| Kimmy Brewer | I tried this, it just jumps to the next extension | 19:50:48 |
| Kimmy Brewer | I am able to run, what appears successfully, the update and setupStore script without the problem extension enabled. As soon as the problem extension is enabled we are given the upgrade key error, at which point it displays the above error when those scripts try to run. I have attempted various combinations of the smwgConfigFileDir, the upgrade key enabled/disabled in our LS.p, and just enabling the base SMW rather than any associated extensions. I have reached out to our "hoster" to see if maybe they configured PHP to use CGI vs CLI. I would be interested in further debugging from this source (https://wiki.bitplan.com/index.php/SMWIssue4785) but I'm not quite sure how/where to implement this code. When I try the web update it gives me an error related to the problem extension, of which there is a patch for so I'm not quite sure why it's stuck on that and not reading all its associated files. | 22:14:56 |
| 27 Dec 2023 |
| Alexander Mashin | Are the permissions for the extension directories right? | 01:22:40 |
| justinl | Hmm, interesting. Once I'm back to work, I'll see about providing better repro information. If you discover anything further, I'd love to hear about it. Regardless, i hope you're enjoying the holidays! | 05:19:57 |
| Bernhard Krabina | Get a tax-deductable invoice right away by donating money to SMW via Open Collective: https://opencollective.com/smw
Funds will go towards maintenance and development of SMW!
| 09:42:33 |
| Bertrand Gorge | Thanks. I'll be sure to report if I find anything! | 10:57:12 |
 cicalese | Wikiapiary is using SMW with DPL3 and has a significant issue with missing properties (hexmode) | 13:23:00 |
 hexmode | Interesting... | 13:23:57 |
