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26 Apr 2024
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansx * Not sure where to document this, but we've discovered that we can reliably produce the infamous "SMW dropped properties bug" by making the page a member of a Page Forms "Class" (i.e. Category:Foo, Form:Foo, Template:Foo, and Property:Has Bar and Property:Has Zaz) and designing it to use a form that sets multiple form fields (like Has Bar and Has Zaz) with the "|values from category=Foo|" where Category:Foo has many (> 1000) pages. Once this is the case, all pages in the class Foo will reliably drop all SMW categories upon PF #autoedit from another page. Note - I don't think this has anything to do with Page Forms itself. I think this just has to do with the utility of using PF as a means of adding the additional processing complexity to the parser process that SMW needs to expose the issue. 16:54:27
29 Apr 2024
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard Krabina

I would not be so sure. Remember the PF developers do not test anymore with SMW. If I understand correctly, there are several PF features involved:

  • you use the "create class" feature of PF (while it is a great feature, I never have really used it)
  • what do you mean with "will reliably drop all SMW categories?
  • you use the #autoedit parser function from another page to edit a SMW page

Do you observe this in a Meza wiki you can make publicly accessible?

Do you mean this with the "SMW dropped properties bug"? https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/5392

Di you use CirrusSearch as well?
I think the best way to document this is to open an issue on GitHub with your exact versions you are using. On element it will get lost.

11:56:13
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansxYes. The SMW dropped properties bug15:45:29
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansx[Do you observe this in a Meza wiki you can make publicly accessible?] No. Not yet. I'm working on it15:49:38
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansx[Di you use CirrusSearch as well?] Yes we use CirrusSearch15:55:55
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansx * [Did you use CirrusSearch as well?] Yes we use CirrusSearch 15:56:02
30 Apr 2024
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard KrabinaSave the date: (S)MWCon Fall 2024 will be held in Vienna, Austria from November 4-6, 2024. 17:09:58
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg
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Save the date: (S)MWCon Fall 2024 will be held in Vienna, Austria from November 4-6, 2024.
Tues. Nov. 5th is also the day for the US General Election
18:20:22
@jeffreywang:matrix.orgJeffrey Wang (MyWikis)Not a problem - you can vote early.18:23:20
1 May 2024
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard Krabina* Save the date: MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Fall 2024 will be held in Vienna, Austria from November 4-6, 2024. 20:37:56
2 May 2024
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard KrabinaTomorrow the Wikimedia Hackathon in Tallinn will start. Even if you cannot make it there physically, you can still participate in SMW related hacking. We will coordinate something ant let you know. Try to make time on Friday afternoon (and the weekend if you don't mind) to join in some bug hunting, PR improvement, testing, documenting, etc.11:30:25
3 May 2024
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard KrabinaI'm located in Las Vegas room (at the hackathon). Feel free to join me anytime.09:29:38
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard KrabinaWe have a Signal group in case someone wants to join: https://signal.group/#CjQKIAMCxsaIlkxja_7wfJpgDcVHcV26eE7pTP94NcGzAwMWEhAqLuVD1QGd7Nh7tn2bPu9t10:50:42
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard Krabinahelp us translate SRF into your language (e. g. the previously untranslated statistics formats): https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=mwgithub-semanticresultformats&filter=%21translated&optional=1&action=translate&language=en (I just did German)11:21:06
@jeffreywang:matrix.orgJeffrey Wang (MyWikis)
In reply to @krabina:matrix.org
I'm located in Las Vegas room (at the hackathon). Feel free to join me anytime.
I wish you were in the real Las Vegas 🤪
16:51:53
5 May 2024
@alex.mashin:matrix.orgAlexander Mashin changed their display name from alex.mashin to Alexander Mashin.08:26:26
6 May 2024
@telegram_1064713623:t2bot.ioLuca Mauri Hello.
Please a I need help regarding Incoming Properties in a SMW query.
I read the documentation https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Incoming_format and I am able to perform queries on pages. My question is regarding scripting: can I have the same result using LUA?
Either this is not possible, or I am unable to find proper documentation.
10:39:09
@oetterer:matrix.orgoetterer
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Hello.
Please a I need help regarding Incoming Properties in a SMW query.
I read the documentation https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Incoming_format and I am able to perform queries on pages. My question is regarding scripting: can I have the same result using LUA?
Either this is not possible, or I am unable to find proper documentation.
You need to install https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Scribunto. Follow the documentation of this extension to learn how to query in lua.
10:57:16
@telegram_1064713623:t2bot.ioLuca Mauri
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You need to install https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Scribunto. Follow the documentation of this extension to learn how to query in lua.
Can you please point me to the documentation specific to Incoming Properties query?
13:52:45
@oetterer:matrix.orgoetterer
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Can you please point me to the documentation specific to Incoming Properties query?
There is only a general documentation on how to do SMW parser function queries in lua (here: https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticScribunto/blob/master/docs/mw.smw.ask.md). You have to figure out, how you would do your query normally and then you can easily reproduce it in lua.
14:44:38
8 May 2024
@witchit:matrix.orgwitchIT changed their display name from witchit to witchIT.15:16:13
15 May 2024
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard KrabinaFor the next conference, we want to be especially early on getting potential contributions (talks), because an attractive program is the main reason why new attendees might be interested to show up. So please already find the call for contributions and think about what you would like to present: https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024/Call_for_Contributions17:55:18
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard KrabinaIf you don't have a great MediaWiki use case or extension to present, you can also contribute to the program by giving an introduction or tutorial.17:56:33
16 May 2024
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@telegram_1977927929:t2bot.ioxxSputn1x@ XxkikSorry for my English it's not good12:13:27
29 May 2024
@lighthazard:matrix.orglighthazardI have some large queries with a lot of ?propertyName to show a column for it. I'd like to query a page like [[Page:Something]]?ALLPROPERTIES which will list all properties for it, ideas?14:26:58
15 Jun 2024
@shroudedlotus:matrix.orgShrouded Lotus joined the room.02:04:46
@shroudedlotus:matrix.orgShrouded LotusIf a text property contains a paragraph with multiple double square brackets in said paragraph, is there a way exclude all results that contain a specific sequence of words within the aforementioned paragraph02:43:28
@shroudedlotus:matrix.orgShrouded LotusThe property is denoted as Lore. So I wish to do something like [[Lore:!~once per turn]]02:44:46

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