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13 Mar 2024
@alex.mashin:matrix.orgAlexander MashinThank you. I presume, I should ask either to review a bit pull request?06:45:35
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15 Mar 2024
@alex.mashin:matrix.orgAlexander Mashin In PHP, is there a way to know the "owner" of a value returned by a chain printout (e.g., ResultArray), that is the title of the page, in which this chain value has been set? I.e., for ?relation1.property2 get the name of the target of relation1? 08:54:21
@kghbln:matrix.orgkghbln Bernhard Krabina: Since you worked on this. Do you have a clue why these vocabulary pages do not get added to the wiki? https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/tree/master/data/import/vocabularies I am using the default for https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$smwgImportFileDirs thus I would have thought that not just the original four pages (foaf, owl, schema and skos) get imported? 18:30:38
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Bernhard Krabina: Since you worked on this. Do you have a clue why these vocabulary pages do not get added to the wiki? https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/tree/master/data/import/vocabularies I am using the default for https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$smwgImportFileDirs thus I would have thought that not just the original four pages (foaf, owl, schema and skos) get imported?
Admittedly I never looked closer at this.
18:31:11
16 Mar 2024
@nikerabbit:matrix.orgnikerabbitI made a PR for SMW. Reviews would be welcome: https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/pull/561607:55:16
@bertrandgorge:matrix.orgBertrand GorgeI spent 10 minutes confusing your comments with the one of coderabbit... I thought Nikerabbit was also a bot or I don't know 😂08:50:09
@nikerabbit:matrix.orgnikerabbit:D. I don't know who has set up coderabbit there15:34:09
17 Mar 2024
@bertrandgorge:matrix.orgBertrand GorgeTo say the truth, if it can find bugs, why not...!12:35:57
18 Mar 2024
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard KrabinaI just created a first session proposal for MW Hackathon in Tallinn: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T36032313:59:23
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard Krabinaanybody going?13:59:32
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard Krabinahttps://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Hackathon_202414:01:10
@nikerabbit:matrix.orgnikerabbitI'm going to Tallinn17:23:06
21 Mar 2024
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard KrabinaThank you to HMS Analytical Software for their generous donation to SMW! https://lnkd.in/dvfXiiF7 Every donation helps! https://opencollective.com/smw12:55:36
27 Mar 2024
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28 Mar 2024
@justinl:matrix.orgjustinl

Hey all, I accidentally posted this in the Extensions room, copying here.

When trying to create a new property (on 1.39.6) following these steps:

  1. Create a property by choosing a TestProperty and then go to https://wiki.example.com/wiki/Property:TestProperty
  2. Click "create this page"
  3. Add this to the textbox: [[Has type::Quantity]]
  4. Click the "Save page" button

This gives an error:

Property "TestProperty" was altered and requires assigned entities to be reevaluated using a change propagation process. The property page has been locked until the primary specification update is completed to prevent intermediary interruptions or contradictory specifications. The process may take a moment before the page can be unlocked as it depends on the size and frequency of the job queue scheduler.

Then the odd workaround:

  1. Click on the "view source" tab. This shows the text added above.
  2. The "view source" tab is now "edit", just click the "Save changes" button and see that the property exists and can now be edited.

Any thoughts on what's wrong here?

17:22:23
@justinl:matrix.orgjustinlBased on https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Change_propagation, could this just be slow job queue processing, even though there's nothing else going on in the test wiki I'm using?17:29:04
@justinl:matrix.orgjustinl I did another test while watching runJobs.php --wait and saw the CirrusSearch and SMW change propagation jobs happen within 2 seconds of step 4. 17:33:01
@justinl:matrix.orgjustinlReading through this now: https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/4344 It's a lot, but in case it jogs memories of anyone here...18:34:02
@justinl:matrix.orgjustinlSo far I'm not seeing anything helpful there. Any thoughts here? Would it be a good idea to update the issue with my specific issue and workaround? This may have to delay our upgrade planned to be done next week or the following.18:51:26
@justinl:matrix.orgjustinlNever mind. Our editors report this is normal, their "workaround" is to just wait several seconds.20:10:37
30 Mar 2024
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansx

ok.. hopefully a noob question with a simple answer.. I upgraded MW from 1.35 to 1.39. When I visited one of the wikis, I got the well-known SMW error page that says, "Semantic MediaWiki was installed and enabled but is missing an appropriate upgrade key."

So, as instructed, I ran both maintenance/update.php and extensions/SemanticMediawiki/maintenance/setupStore.php

Both scripts ran without error, issue, or warning.. all seems good from the command line, but I'm still seeing the "Semantic MediaWiki was installed and enabled but is missing an appropriate upgrade key." error page when I visit the wiki.

Is there something obvious I'm missing?

15:37:54
@revansx:matrix.orgrevansx *

Hopefully a noob question with a simple answer.. I upgraded MW from 1.35 to 1.39. When I visited one of the wikis, I got the well-known SMW error page that says, "Semantic MediaWiki was installed and enabled but is missing an appropriate upgrade key."

So, as instructed, I ran both maintenance/update.php and extensions/SemanticMediawiki/maintenance/setupStore.php

Both scripts ran without error, issue, or warning.. all seems good from the command line, but I'm still seeing the "Semantic MediaWiki was installed and enabled but is missing an appropriate upgrade key." error page when I visit the wiki.

Is there something obvious I'm missing?

15:38:05
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgI'm not an expert on the 'setup consistency' checks in SMW, but I do know that if you're referring to a Meza instance, that the .smw.json file was moved in the latest version of Meza 39.6 That could be causing your problem.16:07:24
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgYou could ignore the consistency checks altogether with the new setting https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$smwgIgnoreUpgradeKeyCheck (maybe not the best approach)16:08:47
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg

You could search for .smw.json files to see if there are multiple

find / -name '.smw.json'

16:09:54
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg also, either enable debugging and look in the mw_debug log file, or visit the page generating the error with ?requestDebug=true (meza only) 16:19:31
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgSMW should be generating some detailed info about what it thinks is wrong: https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Setup_check16:21:00
@krabina:matrix.orgBernhard KrabinaUsually update.php fixes this (by invoking SetupStore.php) So after that the message should go away.18:35:20

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