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16 Jun 2021
@johnorjanedoe:matrix.orgjdoeIn order for America to stay on top, everyone must kill a cop.13:50:00
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyWell, the old fashioned answer would be that mostly right wing militia types will probably rise up when "they come to take our guns" or, more realistically, when their first world comforts are removed19:26:18
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyBut personally, I suspect that the free market for security services which people have been talking about for so long, perhaps using cryptocurrency and decentralized networks like the kind coming up now, may be closer than most of us imagine. And it's inevitable that there will be conflict with state actors19:28:51
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyIn short, I think probably this decade19:30:00
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0mey But of course you don't have to wait for anybody, though I would still say to be careful about it and at least try to get away with it 19:31:19
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyIf you really just want to live life how you want and feel safe enough to have kids, I would say that you can achieve that without cops completely disappearing. You can achieve that now19:33:23
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyDownload Vonu - A Strategy for Self-Liberation Digital.pdf19:34:59
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyDownload secondrealm.pdf19:36:02
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyHere are some basic introductions to that kind of stuff19:36:34
17 Jun 2021
@johnorjanedoe:matrix.orgjdoe

But this is not about coercion. These publications assume that the problem of police is a problem of liberty...that one can achieve safety and security by giving up liberty and that the government is legitimate enough to at least grant that.
...this may have been true in the 1970s but in the past 50 years an apathetic populace has allowed the situation to evolve to the point where we are simply abused by our overlords without any purpose or pretext other than the satisfaction the state actors get from flexing their muscle.

State tyranny is no longer the problem, state terrorism is the problem (because such is the slippery slope and the path society has chosen).

10:01:22
@johnorjanedoe:matrix.orgjdoe...and the state will learn, much like Al Qaeda, that their terrorism will elicit one and only one response which is their extermination.10:14:57
@johnorjanedoe:matrix.orgjdoe

And there's no sense trying to explain it, but anyone wanting to think even just a little bit beyond the basic animal instincts should take note that if you push someone and you push someone and you push someone without rhyme or reason...when the only explanation that courts of law have for the physical violence and abusive behavior is that "it's allowed" then it becomes a simple matter of evolution and the natural order. It becomes preordained that:
The animals (known as "police") must die because there is simply no place for them, no niche to sustain them anywhere on this earth, no philosophy to justify their existence, and no food for their devolved offspring who fail to rise above the animals.

The earth is for those who have evolved beyond the animal instinct, for men and women enlightened enough to have reason, philosophy, and courts of law, but the animals we all know as police must go to the grave because there is simply no other place to put them.

Police must be euthanized and, most likely, the state workers and clerks along with them (a tribunal will decide).

10:23:40
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyI agree, more or less, and I very much intend to be a part of it21:31:55
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyThough I think I can be most effective if I'm doing it from a position of strength, and perhaps some with some cooperation from others21:33:24
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyIs it giving up liberty to live a more private and secure lifestyle? Maybe it is. You could say that death, too, is a deprivation of liberty. And, personally, before I die I would like to do more than just kill a couple cops and maybe make a headline or a neat LiveLeak gore video for a few weirdos to watch.21:37:25
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyPerfect liberty, perfect peace, is an ideal which will never actually be achieved. We must always strive for it, and always get closer, but never quite reach it. I believe we will succeed in getting rid of "cops" as we know them, but there always be "criminals" of some kind, even if they are less bad.21:39:41
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyA perfect world would have no danger at all, not even from nature. No death, no suffering.21:41:20
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meyBut in life, you only have a choice between different kinds of danger, different kinds of suffering, different kinds of death. You can make cost-benefit analyses to pick between them, and you may still fail on your chosen path even then.21:44:07
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0meySo, you could say that it's a choice between sacrificing one liberty or another.21:44:55
22 Jun 2021
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8 Jul 2021
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9 Jul 2021
@johnorjanedoe:matrix.orgjdoe

Is it me or are people in the free state project more like slavertarians than libertarians? That is to say the only right they conceive is for some people to be recorded in a special government book (the book of property owners) with all other social interaction subservient to that ownership relation (like slaves).

I've never met such a group of sadistic freedom haters as I have in the free state project. It's quite disgusting and offensive that the word "free" is even uttered in the sane sentence as these people.

00:03:03
@johnorjanedoe:matrix.orgjdoe...lots of sick puppies in this movement. Kind of people that should probably be euthanized right after the cops.00:05:54
10 Jul 2021
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12 Jul 2021
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14 Jul 2021
@helpmyself:halogen.cityhEl[p,m0mey jdoe: I dunno, you might be right. Why, what did you encounter? 18:09:17

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