| 20 Dec 2023 |
 galacticcolourisation | the amount of languages and people that go "uh, actually, why are we doing error types again? also like what's wrong with null, it was super fun lolz" | 21:47:56 |
 Raph | oh I see | 21:49:05 |
| Raph | yeah there's way too many languages, but most of the popular ones I'd like to see dead ngl | 21:49:32 |
| Raph | I don't have an opinion on null and error types, I'm a Cnile, I think languages that do have them are nicer tho | 21:49:55 |
| Raph | the new languages keeping them seem to be targeting Cniles with by being just a little safer and nicer | 21:50:36 |
| Raph | * I don't have an opinion on null safety and error types, I'm a Cnile, I think languages that do have them are nicer tho | 21:51:03 |
| Raph | * the new languages doing null and no error types them seem to be targeting Cniles with by being just a little safer and nicer | 21:51:21 |
| 21 Dec 2023 |
 wiltaylor | Yeah javascript loves null so much it added 2.... | 02:15:53 |
 Gavin Freeborn | Easy to spot 😠If only | 17:23:49 |
| 25 Dec 2023 |
|  mnipritom joined the room. | 21:12:46 |
| 26 Dec 2023 |
| wiltaylor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qljpi5jiMQ | 10:35:17 |
| wiltaylor | Really good video on whats wrong | 10:35:44 |
| Raph | https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/discussions/3806#discussioncomment-6686976 | 15:20:23 |
| Raph | I'm using it right now
I've been reading helix --tutor and some of the changes are quite nice
it's basically vim bindings but swapped and you have to select before every action, the selection stuff is quite nice
you also have support for multicursors | 15:29:05 |
| Raph | I'm using it cause there's very little configuration that you need to do and I can't be bothered to figure out what's going on with Zig and Odin's LSP not working on nvim | 15:30:04 |
 thefossenjoyer | Classic | 17:46:42 |
| thefossenjoyer | I see, sounds good | 17:46:54 |
| 27 Dec 2023 |
 doctorcringephd | saw that, too | 00:21:32 |
| Gavin Freeborn | I started this thinking "it works fine for me" just to resonate with most of the problems he mentions in part 6 and 7 | 01:43:05 |
| Gavin Freeborn | Ya just use JS 😉 | 01:44:15 |
| Gavin Freeborn | Jokes aside I don't think it's gonna make much difference as far as adoption considering extensibility isn't the reason most of its users are there | 01:47:00 |
| doctorcringephd | why are they there? | 02:05:05 |
| Gavin Freeborn | Multiple other reasons. Could be that they like the editing model, it's simpler for them to get the setup they want than with vim/neovim, like rust, or some other reason I am unfamiliar with | 02:14:30 |
| Gavin Freeborn | * Multiple other reasons. Could be that they like the editing model, it's simpler for them to get the setup they want than with vim/neovim, like rust, or some other reason | 02:14:41 |
| Gavin Freeborn | Obviously it's not just one thing for most. | 02:15:51 |
| wiltaylor | Most developers i find have an editor picked for them | 02:24:22 |
| wiltaylor | Still a heap of people using notepad++ for stuff because it is there | 02:24:48 |
| wiltaylor | Vscode is usually in developer onboarding docs | 02:25:11 |
| doctorcringephd | yep, way too often. do you think i ever used dreamweaver because it was a quality product? | 02:26:37 |
| wiltaylor | Lol was better than frontpage thoigh | 02:27:08 |
