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28 Mar 2024
@concord:fuwafuwatime.moe0xC0ncordSo things that are critical to the system should generally be built in20:34:38
@concord:fuwafuwatime.moe0xC0ncordBut that's more just a general rule of thumb20:34:51
@concord:fuwafuwatime.moe0xC0ncordIt's not super easy to explain since it's situational and depends on both what the feature itself is and what your use case is20:35:30
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007I see.. 20:41:46
@parona:matrix.orgparona
  • also firmware. if you build in something that requires firmware then you will need to explicitly include that firmware in the kernel. its a manual process and you need to know what you need.

effects gpu drivers and networking

20:41:48
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007I appreciate it20:41:50
@parona:matrix.orgparona * + also firmware. if you build in something that requires firmware then you will need to explicitly include that firmware in the kernel. its a manual process and you need to know what you need. effects gpu drivers and networking 20:42:15
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007I guess where I get confused is, some of the application specific Gentoo wiki pages, in the kernel config section, it looks like they always build in the feature needed.20:43:02
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007But I suppose that's not mandatory. Like on the wireguard page for example...20:43:24
@concord:fuwafuwatime.moe0xC0ncordYeah it's not mandatory. However there are some features that can only be loaded as a built in and not as a module (things like library code)20:43:47
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007They Enable the "Wireguard secure network tunnel" option20:43:47
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007By default, that's set as a module20:44:02
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007So I'm guessing that really didn't need to be changed20:44:14
@concord:fuwafuwatime.moe0xC0ncordMy personal rule of thumb for builtins vs modules is: if the feature is something that is critical to my system or is literally built into the hardware (network driver, disk driver, GPU drivers, sound drivers, etc) I will make it a builtin. Anything else I will usually make into a module which will include things like external USB devices or webcams, etc20:45:36
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007Ok cool. Thank you20:46:00
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007I think in my case as far as file systems go, I am currently using Ext4 so I'll want to build that in.. I can disable basically most other things I've never heard of. But maybe I decide to format some external drive as btrfs... So, I may want to make btrfs a module20:47:41
@concord:fuwafuwatime.moe0xC0ncord
In reply to @igawaasagi007:matrix.org
I think in my case as far as file systems go, I am currently using Ext4 so I'll want to build that in.. I can disable basically most other things I've never heard of. But maybe I decide to format some external drive as btrfs... So, I may want to make btrfs a module
That's what I would do personally
20:48:20
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007Or as another example I have a dual boot with MacOS... So I'll want to set that APFS+ or whatever file system they use as a module too in the event I ever wanted to try and mount that on my Linux system20:49:04
@igawaasagi007:matrix.orgigawaasagi007Idk if that's even an option but just throwing an example out20:49:54
@parona:matrix.orgparonais there even apfs driver on linux. like in kernel and not fuse20:49:59
@parona:matrix.orgparona * is there even apfs driver on linux? like in kernel and not via fuse20:50:10
@concord:fuwafuwatime.moe0xC0ncord
In reply to @parona:matrix.org
is there even apfs driver on linux? like in kernel and not via fuse
I don't think so but I am not 100% sure
21:01:49
29 Mar 2024
@admin:reticentadmin.comhaoyiI migrating to musl-llvm profile00:18:45
@admin:reticentadmin.comhaoyi* I am migrating to musl-llvm profile02:30:30
@admin:reticentadmin.comhaoyi* I am migrating to the musl-llvm profile02:30:39
@shaorin:matrix.orgShaorin
In reply to @admin:reticentadmin.com
I am migrating to the musl-llvm profile
sounds fun :)
03:11:42
@shaorin:matrix.orgShaorinmorning03:11:44
@guntherdw:wrongplace.beguntherdw
In reply to @igawaasagi007:matrix.org
So I'm guessing that really didn't need to be changed
Unless you borked up your system somehow and it's not detecting/loading the module when you need it, no
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