| 5 Jun 2024 |
 Frosty | XD | 13:01:08 |
 carl | haha, I'm surprised you're the first one to do that | 14:06:43 |
 A2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess it's not really a problem- the bot makes a separate moderation room anyway | 14:07:21 |
| 6 Jun 2024 |
 JulianF | In reply to @frosty:frostyfrog.net
Oh, that's a rough one. But on the plus side, you two did create something pretty cool :) This is great, this is open source working as it should: someone creates something, others can build on it without needing the original creator. The only problem is social awkwardness like having to tell people about it in a different way. Instead of "Dear original creator, I'm waiting for you to accept and publish my version," contributors can say "Dear everyone else, here's my version; you're welcome." I'm not saying we don't like someone else managing the project for us, I'm saying it's great that we don't need that. Thank you for building it; that's already more than you owe us. | 08:48:03 |
| JulianF | * This is great, this is open source working as it should: someone creates something, others can build on it without needing the original creator. The only problem is social awkwardness like having to tell people about it in a different way. Instead of "Dear original creator, I'm waiting for you to accept and publish my version," contributors can say "Dear everyone else, here's my version; you're welcome." I'm not saying we don't
like someone else managing the project for us, I'm saying it's great that we don't need that. Thank you (A2 and carl) for building it; that's already more than you owe us. | 08:49:54 |
| JulianF | * This is great, this is open source working as it should: someone creates something, others can build on it without needing the original creator. The only problem is social awkwardness like having to tell people about it in a different way. Instead of "Dear original creator, I'm waiting for you to accept and publish my version," contributors can say "Dear everyone else, here's my version; you're welcome." I'm not saying we don't *like* someone else managing the project for us, I'm saying it's great that we don't *need* that. Thank you (A2 and carl) for building it; that's already more than you owe us. | 08:50:28 |
| 7 Jun 2024 |
|  WP-Test joined the room. | 03:46:05 |
|  Thib (m.org) changed their display name from Thib (m.org) to Thib (m.org, away Fri 7). | 11:11:04 |
| WP-Test | Hi all ã‹¡
I just joined and I have 3 questions:
- Can someone tell me if there is a ready integration (plugin) with WordPress?
- If there is no plugin, can someone tell me if they have tried to integrate Cactus with WordPress (if so, help is welcome)?
- Can the Cactus server be run on a hosting (apache, mariadb/mysql, php8, composer, laravel - I don't have a vps server with the option to run dockers)?
| 11:52:31 |
| A2 |
- what kind of wordpress integration are you looking for? it's just a bit of js you can include. if you're looking for integration with your user / auth system, that's not really a thing..
- I have not tried. I do not use wordpress. But I think you should be able to just write the HTML in wordpress?
- I'm not sure what "a hosting" is, but cactus does not use mariadb, php, composer or laravel. if you want to self-host, you need to host the js and css files (apache can do that), and run a python program. there is a guide on how to do it with systemd, if you do not like docker: https://cactus.chat/docs/server/systemd-service/
| 11:56:22 |
| WP-Test | thank you for your fast answer | 12:10:35 |
| WP-Test | When I wrote "hosting" I meant shared hosting provider like ovh etc. | 12:12:52 |
| WP-Test | I'e very simple WordPress site (like business card). I don't post often and I no need more accounts than the admin. WordPress comment system isn't good for me. I looking for comments solution especialy for guests (no registration required). WordPress comment system requires many plugins (often sluggish and slow) for look nice. | 12:26:52 |
| WP-Test | Your demo: https://cactus.chat/demo/ is something that meets all my requirements. | 12:34:08 |
| A2 | cool :) you can follow the guide on the website on how to implement it on your site https://cactus.chat/docs/getting-started/quick-start/
It's like 3 lines to copy/paste and change some values, and you should be good to go. it's possible to do as long as you can edit the html of your wordpress site. I think that should be just a few clicks in wordpress? I'm not very familiar with wordpress. | 12:37:14 |
| WP-Test | A2: 1st of all, Thank You so much for Your support (discuss with someone who has more experience is amazing for me). 2nd, let me explain what motivated me to ask questions.
I understand that the implementation (html) on the page isn't complicated, but my question about the plugin was due to my lack of knowledge about how it works. As a new WordPress user, I think plugins simplify the implementation of services such as cactus (download and run) | 12:43:01 |
| WP-Test | Cactus has documentation and I've to use it, but configuring parameters can be very difficult for me in begining. Video tutorial would be a good step-by-step presentation of the application's capabilities | 12:46:43 |
| A2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ feel free to make one. | 12:47:31 |
| A2 | i think most people who use cactus appreciate simplicity, and tend to choose simple static site generators, over complicated CMS setups like wordpress.
if someone wanted to, they would be free to make a wordpress plugin. I don't want to, because I don't appreciate wordpress. | 12:49:03 |
| A2 | the same sort of logic goes for video tutorials. I prefer text tutorials, so I made a text tutorial. | 12:49:24 |
| A2 | * i think most people who use cactus appreciate simplicity, and tend to choose simple static site generators (like jekyll, hugo, etc), over complicated CMS setups like wordpress.
if someone wanted to, they would be free to make a wordpress plugin. I don't want to, because I don't appreciate wordpress. | 12:50:02 |
| WP-Test | I'm trying to understand if I adding the Html code catus (comments) will allow creating a new matrix.org room for each new post? | 12:51:40 |
| A2 | I don't know how committed you are with your wordpress project, but if you're new to web development and want to learn, I would suggest that you take a look at static site generators (like hugo) too. I find it so simple and enjoyable to work, compared to wordpress. 😅 | 12:52:18 |
| A2 | In reply to @wordpress-test:matrix.org
I'm trying to understand if I adding the Html code catus (comments) will allow creating a new matrix.org room for each new post? almost- the free public server runs on cactus.chat, and not on matrix.org, so the room aliases and room ids will include :cactus.chat and not matrix.org | 12:52:46 |
| A2 | if you choose to self-host it, you can put it on whatever domain you own. obviously matrix.org is taken | 12:53:05 |
| A2 | but it will be accessible to any and all accounts registered on matrix.org, since Matrix the protocol is a federated system. | 12:53:24 |
| A2 | In reply to @wordpress-test:matrix.org
I'm trying to understand if I adding the Html code catus (comments) will allow creating a new matrix.org room for each new post? * almost- the free public server runs on cactus.chat, and not on matrix.org, so the room aliases and room ids will include :cactus.chat and not :matrix.org | 12:53:47 |
| A2 | in case I misunderstood your question, it will create a new Matrix room for each comment section, and not for each new post. each comment section is one Matrix room. | 12:54:44 |
| A2 | * I don't know how committed you are with your wordpress project, but if you're new to web development and want to learn, I would suggest that you take a look at static site generators (like hugo) too. I find it so simple and enjoyable to work with, compared to wordpress. 😅 | 12:57:01 |
| WP-Test | These are my first steps in webmastering. I didn't know about the existence of jekyll, hugo, etc. I'll definitely check it out ã‹¡
Please don't take my messages as accusation. I'm not demanding a video tutorial. I just asked about it because in my case it's the form of information which I've had the most experience with. | 12:57:33 |
