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https://element.io | Stable: v1.10.13 | Release status: RC planned for 31st May | Code & bugs at https://github.com/vector-im/element-web | Release notes in #element-web-announcements:matrix.org | Give feedback on desktop/webapp here; Mobile app feedback at #element-android:matrix.org and #element-ios:matrix.org1706 Servers

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24 May 2022
@biep:nltrix.netM Bip
In reply to @cos:hacklab.fi
Lesson to learn: Always have more than one trusted admins from various homeservers in important rooms
Yep. I have a second account on another server for that, so if my server gives up, I haven't lost access and admin rights to my rooms.
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@saviq:matrix.orgSaviqHi all, my google fu is failing me, is it possible to hide join/part messages? Globally or per room?14:25:33
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@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy) Saviq: yes, Settings > Preferences 14:30:18
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@ctskarl:matrix.orgKarl (AT)

Michael, currently it look like nobody understands why, but there must be a significant change. The main idea why i run all internet services in firejail is, that if there is an exploit, only the download folder is accessible, no fileshares or other data. i even spearated thunderbird, firefox, mastodon and element not to share the same download folder. a little bit more handlung during daily work, a real smiling face if nothing happens if there is a bug in a software.

All Versions up to 1.10.3 shows only ""private home"" and upload from there works. Starting with 1.10.4 upload shows full filesystem and also shares, but finally upload fails. So the ""private home"" is ignored.

If somebody wants to test I am happy to submit the setup and firejail configs.

Edit: I run Debian SId amd64 with NVIDIA Card
Edit 2: I can switch forward and backward (1.10.3 - higher Versiones) and the error comes and goes with it.

I just testet 1.10.12, the problem still exists, back to 1.10.3. :-(

Reading the 1.10.13 changelog I had hope that it works again with firejail, but also 1.10.13 fails. Back to 1.10.3.

15:32:02
@thenamelesswonderer:thesilentlink.orgTheNamelessWonderer
In reply to @ctskarl:matrix.org

Michael, currently it look like nobody understands why, but there must be a significant change. The main idea why i run all internet services in firejail is, that if there is an exploit, only the download folder is accessible, no fileshares or other data. i even spearated thunderbird, firefox, mastodon and element not to share the same download folder. a little bit more handlung during daily work, a real smiling face if nothing happens if there is a bug in a software.

All Versions up to 1.10.3 shows only ""private home"" and upload from there works. Starting with 1.10.4 upload shows full filesystem and also shares, but finally upload fails. So the ""private home"" is ignored.

If somebody wants to test I am happy to submit the setup and firejail configs.

Edit: I run Debian SId amd64 with NVIDIA Card
Edit 2: I can switch forward and backward (1.10.3 - higher Versiones) and the error comes and goes with it.

I just testet 1.10.12, the problem still exists, back to 1.10.3. :-(

Reading the 1.10.13 changelog I had hope that it works again with firejail, but also 1.10.13 fails. Back to 1.10.3.

why not use the flatpak if you want sandboxing?
15:38:21
@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)
In reply to @ctskarl:matrix.org

Michael, currently it look like nobody understands why, but there must be a significant change. The main idea why i run all internet services in firejail is, that if there is an exploit, only the download folder is accessible, no fileshares or other data. i even spearated thunderbird, firefox, mastodon and element not to share the same download folder. a little bit more handlung during daily work, a real smiling face if nothing happens if there is a bug in a software.

All Versions up to 1.10.3 shows only ""private home"" and upload from there works. Starting with 1.10.4 upload shows full filesystem and also shares, but finally upload fails. So the ""private home"" is ignored.

If somebody wants to test I am happy to submit the setup and firejail configs.

Edit: I run Debian SId amd64 with NVIDIA Card
Edit 2: I can switch forward and backward (1.10.3 - higher Versiones) and the error comes and goes with it.

I just testet 1.10.12, the problem still exists, back to 1.10.3. :-(

Reading the 1.10.13 changelog I had hope that it works again with firejail, but also 1.10.13 fails. Back to 1.10.3.

what in the 1.10.13 changelog gave you that impression? Electron hasn't been changes beyond patch updates
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@ctskarl:matrix.orgKarl (AT)I use firejail for all software connected to the net. All boxes equipped with it. Have no problems with any software, except Element sind 1.10.4. and higher. Back to 1.10.3 problem is gone.15:40:51
@ctskarl:matrix.orgKarl (AT)Michael there was a line naming thread stuff and based on the long story since 1.10.4 i think maybe there is something. But I am no dev. so just opinion.15:41:55
@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)
In reply to @ctskarl:matrix.org
I use firejail for all software connected to the net. All boxes equipped with it. Have no problems with any software, except Element sind 1.10.4. and higher. Back to 1.10.3 problem is gone.
Then I guess you're stuck there, I suggest opening an upstream issue in electron given all the file picker stuff is handled by them
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@Criminal:matrix.orgmorguldir Karl (AT): you can try using a different electron version, here is how arch does it (currently electron17 is used) https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-community/tree/packages/element.io/trunk 15:53:48
@ctskarl:matrix.orgKarl (AT)Electron said in aother issue its upstream https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/31491 -> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=111215916:04:35
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@Criminal:matrix.orgmorguldirThat doesn’t look related, also 1.10.4 didn’t change much, at least not the electron version, so this seems more like a packaging thing. Really firejail doesn’t protect you if the program can escape from it though.16:18:35
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@ctskarl:matrix.orgKarl (AT)i test all setups with a shell and found no way to escape. beginning with 1.10.4 it lists the folders and files, final access fails. but also from files which would be allowed.16:30:33
@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)
In reply to @ctskarl:matrix.org
i test all setups with a shell and found no way to escape. beginning with 1.10.4 it lists the folders and files, final access fails. but also from files which would be allowed.
maybe related to Chromium's setuid sandbox then
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@ctskarl:matrix.orgKarl (AT)There is this chromium issue, but without beein a dev it looks like i am stuck.16:35:01
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