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10 Apr 2021
@finely:matrix.orgfinelyInternational coffee production is problematic in terms of fair trade, and farmers who used to focus on polycultures that directly fed their families being converted to monoculture that are exposed to commodity fluctuations and all the problems of industrial growing techniques. A source I trust says there are multiple health benefits of coffee, but I have also heard it is one of the worst crops in terms of pesticide exposure.21:42:30
@freenode_CommunistWolf:matrix.orgCommunistWolfthe cuban stuff does quite well by contrast. pesticide use is minimal for various reasons21:45:49
@freenode_CommunistWolf:matrix.orgCommunistWolfthe main issue is the transport, which is really unavoidable if you want coffee and live where I do ^^21:47:02
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International coffee production is problematic in terms of fair trade, and farmers who used to focus on polycultures that directly fed their families being converted to monoculture that are exposed to commodity fluctuations and all the problems of industrial growing techniques.

A source I trust says there are multiple health benefits of coffee, but I have also heard it is one of the worst crops in terms of pesticide exposure.
Same for cotton and many other monocultures.
21:52:39
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Its complicated. Anarchists fought for and against the red army at different times. www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-nestor-makhno-anarchist-warlord-75468315
They fought FOR the red army until they realized the trap, then they fought AGAINST and were all murdered.
21:53:14
@o_0:privacytools.ioo_0Cuba going quite well is not representative of what's going on in Cuba for real. Cuba does not seem to go all that well generally speaking. Buildings have been decaying since the revolution. Many are now in crumbles. No gas, no water, not many supplies in grocery stores, you must wait in line for hours, public infrastructures is decaying and ever since financial help from venezuela stopped, it's even harder. Corruption is rampant. Communism == all the little people equally fucked21:56:07
@o_0:privacytools.ioo_0Coffee is NOT good for your health globally speaking. It's a drug. It makes you addict and it does not feed you. Coffee IS NOT food. Unless you can grow it and transform it yourself or within your community, you should avoid it. Big players have been pumping pseudo studies to make us believe coffee is healthy, so with black chocolate, so with red wine. ALL BS. Inconvenients easily outnumber the scarce positive side effects.21:58:49
@o_0:privacytools.ioo_0 * Coffee is NOT good for your health globally speaking. It's a drug. It makes you addict. Unless you can grow it and transform it yourself or within your community, you should avoid it. Big players have been pumping pseudo studies to make us believe coffee is healthy, so with black chocolate, so with red wine. ALL BS. Inconvenients easily outnumber the scarce positive side effects.22:01:02
@o_0:privacytools.ioo_0 * Coffee is NOT good for your health globally speaking. It's a drug. It makes you addict and it does not feed you. Coffee IS NOT food. Unless you can grow it and transform it yourself or within your community, you should avoid it. Big players have been pumping pseudo studies to make us believe coffee is healthy, so with black chocolate, so with red wine. ALL BS. Inconvenients easily outnumber the scarce positive side effects.22:01:36
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the cuban stuff does quite well by contrast. pesticide use is minimal for various reasons
* Cuba going quite well is not representative of what's going on in Cuba for real. Cuba does not seem to go all that well generally speaking. Buildings have been decaying since the revolution. Many are now in crumbles. No gas, no water, not many supplies in grocery stores, you must wait in line for hours, public infrastructures is decaying and ever since financial help from venezuela stopped, it's even harder.
22:02:59
@freenode_jn__:matrix.orgjn__ please don't edit your long messages so much, it's really difficult to follow the edits and figure out what changes 22:03:49
@o_0:privacytools.ioo_0 * Cuba going quite well is not representative of what's going on in Cuba for real. Cuba does not seem to go all that well generally speaking. Buildings have been decaying since the revolution. Many are now in crumbles. No gas, no water, not many supplies in grocery stores, you must wait in line for hours, public infrastructures is decaying and ever since financial help from venezuela stopped, it's even harder. Corruption is rampant. Communism == all the little people equally fucked22:03:57
@freenode_jn__:matrix.orgjn__for state-organized forms i tentatively agree22:05:34
@o_0:privacytools.ioo_0I'm not native english speaker so I rephrase to make clearer and fix typos when I can.22:05:27
@o_0:privacytools.ioo_0Communism == all the little people equally screwed.22:06:32
@o_0:privacytools.ioo_0Anyone here tried growing tree seedlings air-pruned years ago and have the chance to see how the trees grow years down the line ?22:19:27
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