| 17 Aug 2022 |
 drunken-duck | Hi. Noob in DTP .. Till today i believing a textframe handled a Text Like an Objekt. The Text stored in a Textfile can written and changed "extern" in an editor (vi).
The Idea behind... I get monthly a forword... and i expected to "Link" to this File and scribus Take the Text Automaten fromm this. I expected to much or is a way to do Like this? (Sry the "German english" Hope you understand. 😁 ) | 10:04:36 |
 a.l.e | That's harder to do than one can think...
It works well for images, but for editable items it's not trivial to ensure the synchronization and visual refreshing | 10:56:22 |
| drunken-duck | In reply to @a.l.e:matrix.org
That's harder to do than one can think...
It works well for images, but for editable items it's not trivial to ensure the synchronization and visual refreshing damn... 🤔 and thx | 14:15:07 |
 dobody | In reply to @drunken-duck:matrix.org
Hi. Noob in DTP .. Till today i believing a textframe handled a Text Like an Objekt. The Text stored in a Textfile can written and changed "extern" in an editor (vi).
The Idea behind... I get monthly a forword... and i expected to "Link" to this File and scribus Take the Text Automaten fromm this. I expected to much or is a way to do Like this? (Sry the "German english" Hope you understand. 😁 ) hey duck, your best bet is to link that text through a Web-to-print process where you make a site and edit the CSS '@media print' to be a page the size you want and the text to be structured differently | 14:42:52 |
| dobody | the Open Source Publishing crew in Brussels have developed a little tool if you're into that stuff:
http://osp.kitchen/tools/html2print/
sincerely, Wabbit | 14:45:55 |
| drunken-duck | * Hi. Noob in DTP .. Till today i believed a textframe handle a Text Like an Objekt. The Text stored in a Textfile can written and changed "extern" in an editor (vi).
The Idea behind... I get monthly a forword... and i expected to "Link" to this File and scribus Take the Text Automated from this. I expect to much or is a way to do Like this? (Sry the "German english" Hope you understand. 😁 ) | 16:35:04 |
| dobody | Also before that they managed to connect Scribus to an IRC channel that received Scribus API commands, so your vim-to-scribus patch is absolutely doable, using the scribus api
http://osp.kitchen/tools/scribus-irc/ | 16:47:03 |
| dobody | In reply to @drunken-duck:matrix.org
Hi. Noob in DTP .. Till today i believed a textframe handle a Text Like an Objekt. The Text stored in a Textfile can written and changed "extern" in an editor (vi).
The Idea behind... I get monthly a forword... and i expected to "Link" to this File and scribus Take the Text Automated from this. I expect to much or is a way to do Like this? (Sry the "German english" Hope you understand. 😁 ) https://www.reddit.com/r/scribus/comments/hu07zw/plaintext_files_with_scribus/ | 16:53:35 |
| 18 Aug 2022 |
| a.l.e | dobody: osp's work is amazing... but both projects you're mentioning are abandoned and for most people not really read to be used in production (i doubt that html2print can produce files that will be accepted by most print on demand shops... and even less for "cheap" real printing house...) | 07:17:26 |
| dobody | In reply to @a.l.e:matrix.org
dobody: osp's work is amazing... but both projects you're mentioning are abandoned and for most people not really read to be used in production (i doubt that html2print can produce files that will be accepted by most print on demand shops... and even less for "cheap" real printing house...) Print on demand usually takes already baked files, doesn't it?
The projects aren't exactly abandoned as much as sort of liked as they are. OSP use them on every project and I think the Medor bimonthly co-op uses them to create their print files. I think for duck it might be a feasible thing? | 16:45:33 |
| a.l.e | well, for sure, they are not using their irc sharing tool : - ) | 16:46:44 |
| dobody | html2print prints out PDF files that Medor gives to printers for i think hundreds of copies
but yeah the irc sharing is just a little cooperative tool to experiment in how design and DTP can be changed, suring a workshop hahah | 16:48:04 |
| a.l.e | i'm not up to date of the features of html2print, but as far as i recall it was using the browser for printing, so you will not get CMYK nor fancy PDF version... which many cheap print shops tend to require. | 16:48:06 |
| a.l.e | (the don't really need it, but they require it....) | 16:48:43 |
| dobody | idk, i need to ask them, cause i think it separated colors, but i'm not sure exactly how and what happened | 16:48:59 |
| dobody | some of them teach in my school and that's how they explained it to us, but i'm new to the game | 16:49:39 |
| a.l.e | no need to ask for me : - )
i really like what OSP does but, most of the time, their tools are not what most people would want to use in their daily job.
and that's often the user's fault... but that's the world we live in : - ) | 16:51:35 |
| a.l.e | btw, i know a few of the osp people. they're really nice, brilliant and interesting people. | 16:52:35 |
| a.l.e | so you're in bruxelles : - ) | 16:52:59 |
| a.l.e | wait, i'm confusing html2print with paged.js! | 16:55:44 |
| a.l.e | that's not even from osp. | 16:55:54 |
| a.l.e | just checked http://osp.kitchen/tools/html2print/ and html2print uses the browser for printing. so you're advised to only use it with print shops that you know very well (and that know you just as well) | 16:58:58 |
| a.l.e | https://pagedjs.org/ | 17:00:10 |
| a.l.e | this is the other one (and it seems to be maintained) | 17:00:20 |
| dobody | oh i heard of that one too i might check it out! | 17:20:06 |
| dobody | In reply to @a.l.e:matrix.org
so you're in bruxelles : - ) don't doxx me already :D | 17:20:23 |
| dobody | In reply to @a.l.e:matrix.org
no need to ask for me : - )
i really like what OSP does but, most of the time, their tools are not what most people would want to use in their daily job.
and that's often the user's fault... but that's the world we live in : - ) Well, neither is scribus or gimp or any of the free software tools, but we try to expand the practices and sometimes it works :) | 17:21:22 |
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