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6 May 2021
@shadowjonathan:matrix.orgJonathan* I’d wanna sit here all evening which ones would and which ones wouldn’t qualify, but I’ll leave it at this, thank you ^^21:34:38
@shadowjonathan:matrix.orgJonathan* I’d wanna sit here all evening asking which ones would and which ones wouldn’t qualify, but I’ll leave it at this, thank you ^^21:34:53
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRon the other hand though, if the pending change is something simple like adding an insignificant endpoint then there's not really a reason for us to take the hour or two to release it: we'd more likely just let it roll into the next quarter (or see how the quarter progresses before releasing) 21:35:17
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRthe plan is to accept enough MSCs where we don't run into that situation though: ideally we're shipping substantial bits of Matrix every quarter.21:35:57
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRalso, ftr, spaces is intentionally missing the release in a couple weeks: we want to get more of the spaces-related MSCs landed first.21:37:16
@travis:t2l.ioTravisR so if people go around saying "omg 2 months until Matrix hates you for using org.matrix.msc1772" then I will have words with them 21:37:52
@shadowjonathan:matrix.orgJonathan That’s kinda related to why I asked for the definition of “stable” though, because I’m exactly the person who’d go around chiding that, and I wanted a clear answer before I’d catch myself being that person 21:38:58
@shadowjonathan:matrix.orgJonathanThanks for giving it21:39:04
@travis:t2l.ioTravisR*because21:39:06
@shadowjonathan:matrix.orgJonathanYeah I saw it as you said it…21:39:14
@shadowjonathan:matrix.orgJonathan * That’s kinda related to why I asked for the definition of “stable” though, because I’m exactly the person who’d go around chiding that, and I wanted a clear answer before I’d catch myself being that person 21:39:22
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRyour muscle memory will get fixed one day 😛 21:39:37
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRin general though, it's best to leave the complaining to the SCT unless you're an implementation that needs another implementation to do the switch21:40:27
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRin which case please don't complain but instead apply pressure 21:40:41
@uumas:kapsi.fiuumaswhy correct cuz to because 🤔21:40:42
@travis:t2l.ioTravisR"cuz" immediately makes the message get interpreted as unprofessional/not worth engaging with.21:42:00
@shadowjonathan:matrix.orgJonathan(I’d disagree, for me personally the professionalism and directness lays in a content of the message rather than it’s exact words, but I’m gonna try anyways)21:43:56
@shadowjonathan:matrix.orgJonathan* (I’d disagree, for me personally the professionalism and directness lays in a content of the message rather than it’s exact words, but I’m gonna try anyways)21:49:23
@erkinalp:matrix.orgErkin Alp
In reply to @travis:t2l.io
the spec doesn't have patch releases anymore
well, because there is nothing to backport from a newer major version yet
22:01:59
@erkinalp:matrix.orgErkin Alponce matrix 2.x arrives, someone will be going to come up with diffs that will backport 2.x bugfixes into 1.x series22:03:57
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRthat's unlikely. Our versioning scheme has a single latest version and a long tail of "you probably shouldn't be implementing this" versions22:06:20
@erkinalp:matrix.orgErkin Alpi thought it worked like sv22:06:56
@erkinalp:matrix.orgErkin Alpthanks for clarification22:07:07
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRsv?22:07:13
@erkinalp:matrix.orgErkin Alpsemantic versioning22:07:24
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRah, no, we deliberately did not use semantic versioning22:07:35
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