| 18 Apr 2024 |
 Simon Müller | yeah this:
https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/03/hackers-can-extract-secret-encryption-keys-from-apples-mac-chips/ | 23:09:44 |
 DFX4509B | So if MS wanted to support Windows ARM natively on Macs, there's little stopping them then, aside from whether or not it's profitable. | 23:09:49 |
| Simon Müller | oh they have an exclusivity contract with Qualcomm running still kekw | 23:10:21 |
| DFX4509B | I thought that either expired or was getting ready to expire unless they got an extension. | 23:10:47 |
 sesu | In reply to@cyrus:tchncs.de
yeah this:
https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/03/hackers-can-extract-secret-encryption-keys-from-apples-mac-chips/ why do I feel like this has happened to every single apple silicon generation | 23:10:57 |
| Simon Müller | In reply to @tarmandur:catgirl.cloud
why do I feel like this has happened to every single apple silicon generation oh it happened before the macOS Apple Silicon move too IIRC | 23:11:38 |
| Simon Müller | but I don't think things like Checkm8 count under that | 23:11:49 |
| DFX4509B | That exclusivity agreement needs to be allowed to actually expire though instead of being extended like Disney extended copyright to nearly a century. | 23:25:28 |
 zakadius | In reply to @cyrus:tchncs.de
oh they have an exclusivity contract with Qualcomm running still kekw How long is it supposed to last? I thought it was expiring "soon" in January | 23:27:05 |
| DFX4509B | * That exclusivity agreement needs to be allowed to actually expire though instead of being extended like Disney extended copyright to nearly a century, so that actual competition in the mainstream ARM space can happen. | 23:27:24 |
| Simon Müller | In reply to @zakadius:kitsunes.club
How long is it supposed to last? I thought it was expiring "soon" in January Honestly I last checked in November 2023, I don't even remember | 23:27:26 |
|  Benjamin McIntyre joined the room. | 23:27:35 |
| zakadius | Anyways that exclusivity deal probably slowed down development for the whole Arm platform kek | 23:28:34 |
| DFX4509B | The only ARM competition I know of is in the hacker SBC space. | 23:28:40 |
| DFX4509B | * The only ARM competition I know of is in the hacker SBC space and in the datacenters. | 23:29:06 |
| DFX4509B | (in which server ARM is holding up pretty well against x86 and to a lesser extent PPC and SPARC. | 23:30:12 |
| DFX4509B | * (in which server ARM is holding up pretty well against x86 and to a lesser extent PPC and SPARC) | 23:30:14 |
| DFX4509B | * (in which server ARM is holding up pretty well against x86 and to a lesser extent PPC and SPARC, even directly competing with Intel and AMD's best efforts with Xeon and Epyc respectively) | 23:30:51 |
| DFX4509B | * (in which server ARM is holding up pretty well against x86 and to a lesser extent PPC and SPARC, even directly competing against Intel and AMD's best efforts with Xeon and Epyc respectively) | 23:31:20 |
| DFX4509B | As for PPC, IBM's pretty much the only company behind it in the server space, and SPARC is also pretty much dead as far as new silicon goes. | 23:32:10 |
| Benjamin McIntyre | Anyone know of a good right to repair RSS feed / newsletter? | 23:32:51 |
| Simon Müller | I'm interested in seeing where RISC-V is heading in terms of adoption | 23:32:53 |
| Simon Müller | In reply to @ben_mac:matrix.org
Anyone know of a good right to repair RSS feed / newsletter? add Louis' YouTube channel as RSS 🧠 /j | 23:33:12 |
| DFX4509B | x86 has AMD and Intel, and ARM has Ampere, Amazon, Nvidia, and Fujitsu behind it. | 23:33:14 |
| DFX4509B | (which oddly enough, Fujitsu's ARM silicon is set to replace SPARC in their lineup) | 23:34:07 |
| Benjamin McIntyre | In reply to @cyrus:tchncs.de
add Louis' YouTube channel as RSS 🧠 /j I've done that for a while, I'd like something a bit more concise. | 23:34:55 |
| DFX4509B | I don't even know if Oracle's in the hardware game anymore or not. | 23:35:00 |
| DFX4509B | * I don't even know if Oracle's in the hardware game anymore or not as Solaris, which used to ship with their SPARC hardware, is effectively dead. | 23:35:29 |
| DFX4509B | * I don't even know if Oracle's in the hardware game anymore or not as Solaris, which used to ship with their SPARC hardware, is effectively dead and Oracle's since shifted development focus to their RHEL clone. | 23:35:58 |
| sesu | pineapple is grass | 23:59:47 |
