| 16 Dec 2023 |
 deathmist_ | qcom arm laptops are a meme to me until you can do virtualization (outside windows, idc at all even if it works with that) | 18:48:12 |
| 18 Dec 2023 |
 mrcyjanek | They are cool for being notebooks tho | 12:54:37 |
| mrcyjanek | I can take my pbp for a hours long notes taking session and it stays up | 12:55:18 |
| mrcyjanek | And worst case scenario i can use powerbank to charge it | 12:55:39 |
| deathmist_ | well yes and I mentioned qcom arm specifically, I'm just really not a fan after having dealt with msm8998 and seeing they do the exact same locked down bs everywhere. literal overclocked phones in a laptop chassis | 20:35:54 |
 Orion ⎇ | at least they're treating their devices equally | 20:36:41 |
| Orion ⎇ | imagine being like Apple and putting a laptop chip inside a tablet, at which point it suddenly needs to be locked down because reasons | 20:37:16 |
| deathmist_ | for $security or something, mobile devices are quite something | 20:38:44 |
| deathmist_ | maybe by the time I'll need a new laptop there will be multiple decent riscv64 options with open source firmware etc | 20:39:33 |
| Orion ⎇ | that is very sad honestly, imagine a linux tablet with an apple pencil | 20:39:43 |
| Orion ⎇ | I would actually consider buying that | 20:40:01 |
| deathmist_ | but a pre-requisite for that is that flathub for example has riscv64 builds of things starting to be available, then I could at least nag maintainers of apps to publish them if they're missing and have to be dealt on a case-by-case basis | 20:44:18 |
| Orion ⎇ | yeah | 20:45:18 |
| Orion ⎇ | I don't think we'll see riscv become super usable on desktop/mobile any time soon | 20:45:46 |
| deathmist_ | I mean https://community.milkv.io/t/introducing-the-milk-v-oasis-with-sg2380-a-revolutionary-risc-v-desktop-experience/780 supposedly will be in people's hands in August next year | 20:48:08 |
| Orion ⎇ | I'm more worried about the software and support side, we'll have to compile things for years, and there will surely be many bugs along the way | 20:50:07 |
| Orion ⎇ | it's already rare to see something like musl get accommodated outside of containers, and that's just a different libc | 20:50:55 |
| deathmist_ | yea for sure, I have a VisionFive 2 on my desk still and I dunno if qemu-user-aarch64 for example is still busted lol | 20:52:01 |
| deathmist_ | last time I tried it just died trying a simple chroot thing | 20:52:07 |
| deathmist_ | that was 3 months ago or something tho | 20:52:11 |
| deathmist_ | at least I could play with Chimera Linux on the board since it supports riscv64, speaking of which I still need to migrate to that perhaps this xmas | 20:54:25 |
| deathmist_ | ooh actually https://hub.docker.com/r/riscv64/alpine apparently exists and chimera already has podman, so could use that instead of lxc as well | 20:55:48 |
| deathmist_ | before I mess more with it I still need to check if I can recover bootloader over UART, because if I somehow mess up flashing or some other issue arises and I can't recover it over my current serial adapter that'll be an experience | 20:58:11 |
| 19 Dec 2023 |
|  granddan joined the room. | 10:01:37 |
| granddan | 10:01:38 |
| granddan | The X13s is a nice piece of hardware. it was just tricky to get Linux on initially | 10:01:38 |
| granddan | but it turns out I was following outdated guides, and all I had to do was update the UEFI and then I could just flash an Ubuntu 23.10 image for the thing | 10:02:47 |
| granddan | Speakers are still iffy, even on rc kernels, but a lot of issues have been ironed out and I can just use it | 10:04:38 |
| 20 Dec 2023 |
| mrcyjanek | On a scale from 0 to why how cursed and awesome is this:
$ uname -s -r
Linux 6.1.68
$ docker build . -f Dockerfile -t windows:10iot_enterprise_ltsc2021-flutter
[+] Building 6329.0s (5/6) docker:default
=> [internal] load build definition from Dockerfile 0.7s
=> => transferring dockerfile: 652B 0.1s
=> [internal] load .dockerignore 0.7s
=> => transferring context: 2B 0.0s
=> [internal] load metadata for docker.io/library/windows:10iot_enterprise_ltsc2021 0.0s
=> CACHED [1/3] FROM docker.io/library/windows:10iot_enterprise_ltsc2021 0.0s
=> [2/3] RUN Set-ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Scope Process -Force; [System.Net.ServicePointManager]::SecurityProtocol = [System.Net.ServicePointManager]::Securit...
=> [3/3] RUN choco install -y visualstudio2022community && choco install -y visualstudio2022-workload-nativedesktop && choco install -y git && choco...
=> => # The install of vcredist140 was successful.
=> => # Software installed as 'exe', install location is likely default.
=> => # Progress: Downloading visualstudio2022-workload-nativedesktop 1.0.0... 100%
=> => # visualstudio2022-workload-nativedesktop v1.0.0 [Approved]
=> => # visualstudio2022-workload-nativedesktop package files install completed. Performing other installation steps.
=> => # Installing visualstudio2022-workload-nativedesktop...
| 15:02:41 |
| 21 Dec 2023 |
 techwizz | I think it's an ouch | 06:11:01 |
