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3 Mar 2024
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybetThere is a reason modos needs 50k people to sign up20:11:25
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybetSo the only option for you or any small project are used screens20:11:43
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybetOr used in other devices screens20:11:50
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybetTouchscreen is a big problem too, most eink panel dont have it20:12:25
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordI see, thank you for explaining. I have found a screen that suits my needs on eink.com. It costs $700 with the driver board, much more than I'd like to spend but it's an option for the sake of the project 20:28:09
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordFor context. My focus is on making a low weight device. I have a few ideas to make something substantially lighter than a typical laptop. E-ink is one piece of this. 20:29:55
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybetThats 7 ereaders from kobo 🫠20:30:00
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordYeah. But I'd be making a one-off device20:30:43
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordI don't have the electronics experience to repurpose the screen from another device. 20:32:35
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordI hope you find a supplier to work with. Maybe you could partner with Pine64. Their e-ink tablet seems sold out, I'm guessing they have the same supply problem 20:37:35
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordAre there any general guides on repurposing e-ink displays from kobos and kindles etc? I guess what you want are the model/part numbers so you can then find the necessary datasheets and wiring diagrams.20:50:42
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybet
In reply to @al:alistair23.me
This is a similar open source eInk display driver board, based on an ESP: https://github.com/vroland/epdiy
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20:51:33
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybet
In reply to @ross_digi:matrix.org
For context. My focus is on making a low weight device. I have a few ideas to make something substantially lighter than a typical laptop. E-ink is one piece of this.
Do you consider repurpusing an entire ereader for this?
20:52:44
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordWell, if I can get the screen by itself I'd do that instead 20:53:26
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordAwesome, thanks, this guide is a good start 20:53:49
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordI'm looking for a 10" display that refreshes quickly enough to be used for productivity. But I don't need touch 20:54:45
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybet

Well
This
https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio/tree/main/keyboard

  • this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRqquXvsR1Q&t=6

Would make you a very easy eink screen. You could make it hotpluggable and have an detachable ereader and hide the laptop in the keyboard itself

20:57:44
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybet* Well This https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio/tree/main/keyboard \+ this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRqquXvsR1Q&t=6 Would make you a very easy eink screen. You could make it hotpluggable and have an detachable ereader and hide the laptop in the keyboard itself 20:58:05
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybetThere are kobo devices that are 10"20:58:33
@alex-a-soto:matrix.orgalex-soto
In reply to @ross_digi:matrix.org
I'm looking for a 10" display that refreshes quickly enough to be used for productivity. But I don't need touch
Although not a solution for you right now but our display controller does work with 10” inch e-ink screens, so hopefully when we make the boards available that could be an option.
21:03:58
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss RochfordOk great 21:06:01
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss Rochford
In reply to @szybet:matrix.org

Well
This
https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio/tree/main/keyboard

+ this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRqquXvsR1Q&t=6
Would make you a very easy eink screen. You could make it hotpluggable and have an detachable ereader and hide the laptop in the keyboard itself

Cool! My problem would be weight. I'm only interested if I can make something stupidly light.

I've seen some conflicting weights on eink.com vs waveshare.com. I'm just doing back-of-the-envelope calculations on weight to see if it makes sense

21:09:49
@alex-a-soto:matrix.orgalex-sotoI’m commuting but I’ll take a look at the video when I get to the office. I think depending on the panel you choose it can be light.21:11:26
@alex-a-soto:matrix.orgalex-sotoAlso, hoping to make a blog post , from FOSDEM reflections but if anyone is in the Boston/Cambridge area and wants to check out our Paper Monitor feel free to reach out , alex@modos.tech21:12:58
@alex-a-soto:matrix.orgalex-soto Going to start having open office hours for any questions or for people to check out prototype 21:13:36
@ross_digi:matrix.orgRoss Rochford
In reply to @alex-a-soto:matrix.org
I’m commuting but I’ll take a look at the video when I get to the office. I think depending on the panel you choose it can be light.
Eink.com lists a 10" panel that is 80 grams and another one that's apparently 32 grams (?!). But on waveshare I see 10" panels are 300 grams, which doesn't sound right either.
21:14:25
6 Mar 2024
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybet is modos thinking of creating an open source ereader?18:11:13
@alex-a-soto:matrix.orgalex-soto
In reply to @szybet:matrix.org
is modos thinking of creating an open source ereader?
Not at the moment. We’re primarily focused on our display controller and monitor. We’ve had some early conversations about possibly exploring a tablet-like device that could function as an ereader, but nothing officially planned yet.
18:14:14
@szybet:matrix.orgSzybetHmm okay. Looking through your repos I concluded that we at inkbox, https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox better stick to the software side... 😉18:15:38
@alex-a-soto:matrix.orgalex-soto

Oh, Inkbox looks great! Thank you for sharing. I’m going to dig deeper and try it out. Will also share it out with Michael.

Yeah, we recently applied for a second NLnet grant to focus on software still waiting to hear back.

18:19:39

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