| 14 Oct 2022 |
 Supreme#9828 | I'm not familiar with the process of bringing up new hardware with monado, how difficult is the process typically? I'd think your typical vr headset wouldn't be much more than just a funny display but that's probably wrong | 15:51:43 |
| Supreme#9828 | oh, i suppose you also have to read IMU values | 15:58:33 |
 rpavlik#1182 | I mean, it totally depends on the help available | 17:01:35 |
| rpavlik#1182 | if vendor is helpful and provides protocol docs, pretty easy | 17:01:45 |
 Moses Turner | There's a chance that libsurvive will just go "oh, tracked device! track the device!" | 17:02:35 |
| Moses Turner | iiuc all the lighthouse-tracked devices use the same HID protocol | 17:02:52 |
| rpavlik#1182 | yeah for lighthouse tracking that would be nice | 17:02:54 |
 pblack#8962 | the simple answer is - monado support when you,, someoone else who owns the device, or the vendor contributes it | 18:46:59 |
| pblack#8962 | * the simple answer is - monado support when you, someoone else who owns the device, or the vendor contributes it | 18:47:08 |
| pblack#8962 | * the simple answer is - monado support when you, someone else who owns the device, or the vendor contributes it | 18:47:18 |
| Supreme#9828 | I'm on it 🫡 | 18:49:57 |
| Supreme#9828 | (depending on how much it costs) | 18:50:02 |
| pblack#8962 | if it appears as a display, some v4l2 cameras and a lighthouse adapter.. probably not too hard, but as usual.. calibration for optics is a stumbling block | 18:50:19 |
| pblack#8962 | lighthouse definitely simplifies the tracking, but its likely it will need libsurvive patches to configure it so that the sensor layout is recognised, as it will be physically different from the vive i imagine | 18:51:28 |
| pblack#8962 | it does look like a cool device, for sure | 18:51:58 |
| pblack#8962 | * if it appears as a display, imu and config easily reverse-engineerable via usb, some v4l2 cameras and a lighthouse adapter.. probably not too hard, but as usual.. calibration for optics is a stumbling block | 18:56:40 |
| Moses Turner | I somewhat doubt this. libsurvive as well as Valve's own lighthouse software parse a config struct describing the light sensor layout and the IMU location | 19:54:49 |
| Moses Turner | That's why libsurvive "just works" with vive wands, knuckles, Index and Vive | 19:55:01 |
| Moses Turner | I think tundra trackers should work fine too (I think) | 19:55:16 |
| pblack#8962 | right.. makes sense | 19:55:18 |
| Moses Turner | There may be some catches tho, I can never be sure | 19:55:37 |
 thaytan#5292 | There's no guarantee that a 3rd party vendor will use the same packet protocol for delivering that data, especially in a device that does tracking another way too | 21:23:36 |
| Moses Turner | there's some guarantee, because there are a lot of devices that SteamVR can track that weren't developed with much help from valve | 21:40:53 |
| Moses Turner | eg. tundra and Etee | 21:41:02 |
| Moses Turner | Some evidence points to that anyhow | 21:41:07 |
| Moses Turner | I'm guessing there's some packet protocol that everyone uses | 21:41:47 |
| thaytan#5292 | A quick google suggests Tundra tracker got their driver distributed with SteamVR, Etee mentions drivers too | 22:14:16 |
| thaytan#5292 | Remember with lighthouse, it's the devices that track the base stations by sensing laser sweeps - they can all install their own driver and report positions without needing a shared protocol | 22:15:31 |
 haagch#5957 | I haven't looked at the SteamVR HDK but I assume most things based on it will "just work" | 22:24:41 |
| haagch#5957 | my pimax 5k+ tracked out of the box with libsurvive | 22:24:56 |
