| 25 Sep 2023 |
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 neiman | Ten Decentralized tool you should know. It has all the usual suspects and is actually a good primer for anyone looking for what's the basic tools of dWeb. https://fission.codes/blog/decentralized-web-tools-you-should-know/ | 22:38:49 |
 ntnsndr | Anyone have any thoughts re: Skiff vs. Nextcloud? | 23:10:07 |
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 travisfw | Neither one is decentralized, imho. But I always advocate for self-hosting if you have the resources, which would mean nextcloud. But I use Skiff, personally, because I don't want to do admin. | 23:35:08 |
| 26 Sep 2023 |
 mitra | s | 01:29:32 |
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| neiman | In reply to @_discord_739167515904835695:t2bot.io
Neither one is decentralized, imho. But I always advocate for self-hosting if you have the resources, which would mean nextcloud. But I use Skiff, personally, because I don't want to do admin. do you know what's skiff unique offer? I know the name, but more or less that's it. | 08:35:30 |
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| travisfw | I think their unique offer is their end to end encryption technology, mainly. And they're offering calendar and drive and documents, not just email. | 13:40:34 |
 mixmixjellyfish | Their site is cool huh. Their open source liscencinc was unclear to me. I only say CC which is not a code license? | 20:12:12 |
| mixmixjellyfish | I think e2ee only works in the context of emailing people usino the same service I imagine. That's the vibe with other email services like the (protonmail?) | 20:13:22 |
| mixmixjellyfish | A lot depends on the email client they offer imo - does it thread emails. Proton didn't a couple years ago and had been promising it for years. Unworkable ux for me | 20:14:52 |
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| 27 Sep 2023 |
 coltenj | I tried Skiff a few months ago and it didn't have much going for it besides being encrypted. Events couldn't have associated timezones for instance. NextCloud I used on a team for a bit and remember it being very heavy, resource-wise, but gets points for being self-hostable. Email is so tragic in that it's the original distributed messaging architecture but because of spam and bad actors there's no point in trying to self host. I recently switched from protonmail to infomaniak.com, no encryption promises but at least they're swiss. Very good prices for drive, collaborative office apps, and email, ~ $4/month for 3TB storage. Not decentralized at all of course, but I just want something reliable to point Thunderbird at 🙂 | 10:01:21 |
| mixmixjellyfish | I can recommend fastmail. Australian (not american gets points for security 😆 ) | 10:42:03 |
 chadkoh | Been a happy Fastmail user for about 10 years | 11:16:05 |
 ty_ty_ty_ | fastmail is great and also they’re pioneering standards with the ietf. JMAP is like graphql for email— while self hosting the back is traded, as users we can still self host the front. they’re entire web client is powered by it and decoupled. | 16:05:05 |
 Mauve | I'm using migadu :x Pretty straightforward setup and decent price. | 19:36:13 |
 travisfw | In reply to @mauve:mauve.moe
I'm using migadu :x Pretty straightforward setup and decent price. Woah that is a breath of fresh air to read about. | 20:36:48 |
| 28 Sep 2023 |
| mixmixjellyfish | https://www.migadu.com/ | 05:33:06 |
| Mauve | I got it with my matrix server upkeep subscription with erke.cc 🥰 | 16:37:23 |
| Mauve | * I got it with my matrix server upkeep subscription with etke.cc 🥰 | 16:37:41 |
| neiman | In reply to @mauve:mauve.moe
I got it with my matrix server upkeep subscription with etke.cc 🥰 you know all the good tools! | 17:27:06 |
| 29 Sep 2023 |
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