| 3 Apr 2020 |
| 16:15:21 |  bizalgo | * eh zapomniałem zrobić initramfs... jest /boot, jest MBR ale ten grub jest pusty. grub> pamięta ktoś jak go teraz zabootować dalej? nawet nie wie mczy da rady, jest raid, LUKS, lvm |
| 16:15:58 |  TX | Bez initramfs'a to raczej lipa. |
| 16:16:25 | bizalgo | midov: pamiętasz jak w grub zestawić RAID z 3-ciej partycji 1szego dysku mniejwięcej, a potem otworzyć cryptsetup i lv |
| 16:17:41 | bizalgo | nie widzę żadnych komend o nazwach lv.. lvm... vg... , ani raid... md.. (oprócz md5) dm... jest tylko cyptomount (i nie jest to raczej luks) chyba to źle wróży |
| 16:18:22 | TX | To raczej systemd robi i usługi przez niego odpalane. |
| 16:18:53 | TX | Natomiast grub umie otwierać kontener luks1. |
| 16:19:23 | bizalgo | grub> ls (hd0,msdos1) ... jak teraz zamontować ten ext file system, może jednak tam są przypadkiem jakieś initramfs |
| 16:24:51 |  kompowiec2 |
w sumie fajna taka wyprawa w nieznane. muszę częściej psuć sobie dyski
slackware wystarcza
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| 16:24:52 |  rms | I'd just like to interject for one moment. Slackware has the two usual problems: there's no clear policy about what software can be included, and nonfree blobs are included in the kernel. It also ships with the nonfree image-viewing program xv. Of course, with no firm policy in place, there might be other nonfree software included that we missed. |
| 16:25:02 | bizalgo | a, on to od razu sam montuje. działa grub> ls (hd0,msdos1)/grub/. Nie ma tam żadnego initrd w ogóle. to chyba nie ma innej opcji niż ponownie rescue mode. |
| 16:26:02 | bizalgo | @TX to tylko dodać update-initramfs i powinno być ok, skoro install-grub załatwił MBR i minimalną zawarość /boot no nie? czy coś jeszcze? dodam reinstall linux-image najpierw bo w sumie to on chyba zniknął z /boot/ w takim razie (boot to nowa partycja teraz) |
| 16:26:03 | rms | I'd just like to interject for one moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux. |
| 16:26:24 | TX | update-initramfs i update-grub |
| 16:53:32 | bizalgo | vgchange -a y # lmao |
| 19:02:27 | bizalgo | @TX o możesz konkretnie pomóc. jak w initramfs otworzyć ręcznie LUKSa? nie widzę programy cryptsetup. |
| 19:03:30 | bizalgo | analizując normalną sprawną instalację debiana też nie do końca rozumiem jak to działa nie ma tam w initramfs cryptsetup za to robi coś z askpass i z plymouth. Może wiesz jak w debian customizować i po prostu dograć mu binarki (bo chyba z remote ssh coś robiłeś w initramfs) |
| 19:03:30 | rms | I'd just like to interject for one moment. Debian's Social Contract states the goal of making Debian entirely free software, and Debian conscientiously keeps nonfree software out of the official Debian system. However, Debian also provides a repository of nonfree software. According to the project, this software is "not part of the Debian system," but the repository is hosted on many of the project's main servers, and people can readily learn about these nonfree packages by browsing Debian's online package database.
There is also a "contrib" repository; its packages are free, but some of them exist to load separately distributed proprietary programs. This too is not thoroughly separated from the main Debian distribution.
Previous releases of Debian included nonfree blobs with the kernel. With the release of Debian 6.0 ("squeeze") in February 2011, these blobs have been moved out of the main distribution to separate packages in the nonfree repository. However, the problem partly remains: the installer in some cases recommends these nonfree firmware files for the peripherals on the machine. |
| 19:04:06 | bizalgo | * analizując normalną sprawną instalację debiana też nie do końca rozumiem jak to działa nie ma tam w initramfs cryptsetup za to robi coś z askpass i z plymouth. Może wiesz jak w debian customizować i po prostu dograć mu binarki (bo chyba z remote ssh coś robiłeś w initramfs) |
| 19:12:05 | bizalgo | a nie wróć, przeoczyłem. poprawny initramfs jednak ma, ./usr/sbin/cryptsetup |
| 19:58:32 | bizalgo | jakie macie sha256 /boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img ? lekko mnie martwi że na 1nym kompie mam inne niż na 2 innych, a wielkość pliku taka sama |
| 20:11:30 |  midov | wszędzie inne |
| 20:11:56 | bizalgo | jednak plik jest generowany dynamicznie. widocznie 2 kompy mam bardzo podobne |
| 20:34:54 | kompowiec2 | midov: a może bedrock linux |
| 20:34:56 | rms | I'd just like to interject for one moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux. |
| 20:35:12 | kompowiec2 | będziesz miał repo DEB RPM AUR i gentoo w jednym miejscu |
| 20:38:19 | midov | 0.0 |
| 20:38:39 | midov | nie brzmi jak kiss |
| 20:43:57 | midov | To install Bedrock Linux:
Install a traditional Linux distro to use as a starting point. See here for reports of how well Bedrock interacts with various distros.
Download the latest installer corresponding to your CPU architecture from here or build your own from here.
Run the script as root with the --hijack flag: sh ./bedrock-linux-release-arch.sh --hijack
Reboot.
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| 20:43:57 | rms | I'd just like to interject for one moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux. |
| 20:44:00 | midov | hueh |
