| 1 Aug 2021 |
 Softdrink#0282 | so usually changing the actuator changes deadzone and engage behavior | 08:47:39 |
| Softdrink#0282 | where changing the plate changes throw | 08:47:44 |
| Softdrink#0282 | because of the physics of how the switches work | 08:47:50 |
| Softdrink#0282 | in this particular case though, since the stick is analog, you might have more freedom | 08:48:06 |
| Softdrink#0282 | * where changing the plate changes throw | 08:48:24 |
| Softdrink#0282 | A couple more questions:
- Does the hex piece come off separately from the pivot? The pictures you posted makes it seem like it might be one piece along with the pivot parts, which would make it quite a bit more complicated to make a replacement
- How does the sensing work? Is it optical or otherwise contactless, or does the actuator come into contact with any kind of sensor components? | 08:52:18 |
 Golden | it's contactless, yeah. it uses magnetism | 08:54:21 |
| Golden | it has a "button" which is also contactless but only outputs a 1 or 0 | 08:54:42 |
| Softdrink#0282 | iiiiinteresting | 08:56:53 |
| Golden | i think the hex piece comes off, but if it doesnt isnt it possible to 3D print a think cover for it? | 08:57:58 |
| Softdrink#0282 | Maybe, but I think you'd be pretty surprised how little a change in size would change the feel of the stick | 08:59:40 |
| Softdrink#0282 | so making something thin enough to keep the change relatively small while also thick enough to be sturdy could be a challenge | 09:00:04 |
| Softdrink#0282 | You'd also need very good tolerances for something like that to work effectively - do you have precise measurements of the hex piece? | 09:00:45 |
| Golden | no precise measurements. I got only 10.1 mm | 09:11:15 |
| Golden | unless being off 0.05 mm is tolerable | 09:12:41 |
| Golden | the diameter, that is, from one edge to the other | 09:13:34 |
| Softdrink#0282 | And do you have dimensions on the restrictor plate? | 09:17:36 |
| Golden | not yet, id have to disassemble it in the morning | 09:20:02 |
| Golden | what are some places i can get a plate done? | 09:34:25 |
| Golden | also, how about restricting the top part of the shaft itself? i think that's a third option | 09:36:56 |
| Softdrink#0282 | That could also potentially work, yeah | 09:40:21 |
| Softdrink#0282 | But that's a much less common solution, and there might not be a good way to mount the restrictor up there | 09:40:45 |
| Golden | i have a spacer plate made out of wood for one of my fightsticks. maybe i can make one but with a much smaller hole | 09:41:01 |
| Softdrink#0282 | a lot of sticks on't have the right kind of geometry for that to be very effective | 09:41:04 |
 CPS | I got weird twitch clip embed on discord lately | 09:41:20 |
| Softdrink#0282 | because they put the pivot very close to flush with the top mount plate | 09:41:32 |
| CPS | it doesn't play clips directly on discord | 09:41:38 |
| Golden | oh, so the hole for the space plate would have to be really small? | 09:42:37 |
| Golden | in mine the pivot is farther down, not like the LS-32, but i think i see what you mean | 09:43:44 |
| Softdrink#0282 | I think it's just harder to solve the tolerances for a 'top plate restrictor' on a stick like a JLF or LS-32, since the pivot is nearly inline with the top plate
A very small difference in the hole size could have drastic effects on the movement because you're so close to the pivot - think of it like a classic lever; the closer you are to the fulcrum, the more proportional influence you have on the movement of the end of the arm
In your stick it could be a different situation though if the pivot is centered deeper in the body | 10:03:34 |
