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29 Feb 2024
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocide
In reply to@dfx4509b:matrix.org
I really can't wrap my head around the reasoning for dumping the W16, only to replace it with a .3l larger-displacement V16 instead of updating the W16 and strapping that to a hybrid drivetrain if Bugatti was going to stick to 16cyl all along.
Why not a W8-9? I feel like that'd be more beneficial as a hybrid than a block longer then the Soviet's old border.
19:07:33
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509BOr even just a V8 like Lambo's moving to with the Huracan's successor.19:08:03
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B * Or even just a V8 like Lambo's supposedly moving to with the Huracan's successor.19:08:13
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B(or just updating the W16 and throwing a hybrid drivetrain on that)19:09:00
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B * (or just updating the W16 to meet current standards and throwing a hybrid drivetrain on that)19:09:10
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideThe Huracán's old enough to be replaced? Wow. I remember it being talk of the town not too long ago.19:09:44
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideEspecially since it's the "budget" Lambo.19:10:08
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B * (or just updating the W16 to meet current standards and throwing a hybrid drivetrain on that, if GM can seemingly consistently update a pushrod Small Block to keep up with the current standards of a given time period, there's no reason why VAG couldn't do so with the W-block engines)19:10:22
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B * (or just updating the W16 to meet current standards and throwing a hybrid drivetrain on that, if GM can seemingly consistently update a pushrod Small Block to keep up with the current standards of a given time period, and pushrod's an inherently ancient design to boot, there's no reason why VAG couldn't do so with the W-block engines)19:10:46
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideI still think a W engine would help them more than V's as they're more compact overall than V's no?19:10:53
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideAt least shorter.19:11:15
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509BYes, although a W8 would be going into diminishing returns territory.19:11:17
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideMakes more sense than 8 V's in a line.19:11:48
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B * Yes, although a W8 would be going into diminishing returns territory especially given equivalent power can be had from a V6 nowadays and fit in roughly the same amount of space as a W8.19:12:01
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideI'd love to see VW tell Bugatti that they need something very power dense, so they switch to like a 6 rotor Wankel. XD19:13:25
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B
In reply to @dracocide:tchncs.de
The Huracán's old enough to be replaced? Wow. I remember it being talk of the town not too long ago.
The Huracan's a decade old now.
19:14:19
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B
In reply to @dracocide:tchncs.de
The Huracán's old enough to be replaced? Wow. I remember it being talk of the town not too long ago.
* The Huracan's a decade old now and last time I thought, ten years was the typical production life for Lambos.
19:15:13
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B * The Huracan's a decade old now and last time I thought, ten years was the typical production lifetime for Lambos. 19:15:20
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509BGoing by that it's about due to be replaced.19:15:35
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideI hate that it is that old now. It didn't feel that old of a car. Aventador, sure. Huracán though...19:16:08
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B * Going by their past it's about due for replacement.19:17:42
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509BBut the only possible way I could see a V16 working in a road car is if it were half the displacement of the one Bugatti's planning or less.19:18:58
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509BAnd a 4l V16 would rev impractically high.19:19:20
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideI mean, we have cars larger than WWII tanks, so... maybe the tank joke isn't that far off. XD19:19:39
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B * And a 4l V16 would rev impractically high for production.19:19:40
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509B0.25l/cyl for a 4l V16, I can't see that lasting very long in a road setting with how high it would have to rev.19:21:37
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideI kinda wished we brought back rotaries into the spotlight. That would make the old car enthusiast side of me happy. One of my favorite race cars is the Mazda 787B, mainly due to the sound it makes.19:25:20
@dracocide:tchncs.deDracocideThe thing screams at like 9-10 thousand and it punches way above its weight.19:28:13
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509BI'd be more interested in more manufacturers than Subaru and Porsche getting into the boxer design again.22:27:07
@dfx4509b:matrix.orgDFX4509BLike the only two companies making boxer engine designs nowadays are the aforementioned Subaru and Porsche.22:29:15

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