| 13 May 2022 |
|  M0dEx ⚡️ joined the room. | 15:15:59 |
 ananas | Samuel: same happened for me with web element.io | 15:16:07 |
| ananas | But well, it worked | 15:16:15 |
| M0dEx ⚡️ | It did | 15:16:33 |
 Gero ⚡️ | In reply to @tony:imsevim.se
if you're talking about the users.txt that list contains me, and im not a bot. and i was in the room for a long time before the attack. Yeah it has all users not only Spammers. I'm on that list as well | 15:16:38 |
| M0dEx ⚡️ | It just crashed my Element on Android 😂 | 15:16:48 |
| M0dEx ⚡️ | Seems to be working fine now. | 15:16:55 |
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|  Aminda (F-36) joined the room. | 15:17:46 |
|  Andrew joined the room. | 15:18:05 |
 Timo ⚡️ | So as you have noticed things have been pretty quiet here. My university is taking up most of my time. Hopefully it will get better in a few weeks | 15:18:25 |
 Pikaminda⚡️ | I also had issues following room upgrade and had to get Element iOS to form matrix:roomid/SMloEYlhCiqKwRLAgY:fachschaften.org?action=join&via=matrix.org&via=pikaviestin.fi&via=fedora.im which handles | 15:18:52 |
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|  tilosp changed their display name from Tilo to tilosp. | 15:19:35 |
| M0dEx ⚡️ | In reply to @timokoesters:fachschaften.org
So as you have noticed things have been pretty quiet here. My university is taking up most of my time. Hopefully it will get better in a few weeks Same with me. | 15:19:38 |
| tilosp set a profile picture. | 15:19:40 |
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| Timo ⚡️ | This gives the matrix world a lot of time to work on conduit.rs/issues :) | 15:21:09 |
 Erkin Alp | In reply to @neilalexander:dendrite.matrix.org
With any luck, users would yell at their server admins if they find themselves ACL'd from lots of rooms unexpectedly and they might do something about open registration, since not much else seems to do it server software and server admin are separate elements in matrix's threat model
you are supposed to trust the server software but not necessarily the server admin | 15:21:22 |
| Erkin Alp | making it pointless to yell at server admins | 15:21:41 |
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| Timo ⚡️ | Trust in the server admin is important. The server admin can easily impersonate you in non-e2ee rooms or e2ee with users that have not verified each other | 15:22:47 |
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 Ticho | I agree with your premise, but not with your conclusion - it is in fact very to the point to yell at server admins to get their server in order, otherwise they will suffer from the server having bad reputation and be banned from many rooms | 15:23:16 |
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| Erkin Alp | In reply to @timokoesters:fachschaften.org
Trust in the server admin is important. The server admin can easily impersonate you in non-e2ee rooms or e2ee with users that have not verified each other the separation of the two elements assumes server admin never directly touches the DB or other users' state | 15:23:28 |
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| Timo ⚡️ | Which means you trust the server admin :P | 15:23:57 |
| Timo ⚡️ | Or the DB is so complicated and not readable with normal tools that no server admin has a chance to modify it | 15:24:23 |
| Erkin Alp | In reply to @timokoesters:fachschaften.org
Or the DB is so complicated and not readable with normal tools that no server admin has a chance to modify it 😂 | 15:24:50 |
