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| 24 Nov 2024 |
 Matthew | has anyone thought of switching pan to matrix-rust-sdk? | 11:49:00 |
| Matthew | i hear the ement.el folks are depenent on it for e2ee | 11:49:12 |
 poljar | Well nio was supposed to be backed by the SDK, but that never materialized. | 17:19:21 |
 Ruther | what's nio? | 17:22:15 |
| Matthew | the python matrix sdk that pan uses | 17:22:51 |
| Matthew | which was poljar’s inspiration for matrix-rust-sdk | 17:23:20 |
| Matthew | but ironically, has ended up starved because all the effort goes into rust-sdk | 17:24:29 |
| Matthew | i wonder if anyone else would feel inspired to swap nio’s guts for rust-sdk | 17:24:58 |
| Matthew | as i really suspect a stable pan still serves a very useful place in the ecosystem for clients who don’t want to have to learn e2ee | 17:25:43 |
| poljar | We tried to sell it as a GSoC project last year or so, but in the end the starts didn't align. | 18:41:02 |
| Matthew | could be a fun element intern project | 19:28:48 |
| Matthew | (if we have $ for interns next year) | 19:28:58 |
 MatMaul | In reply to @matthew:matrix.org
i wonder if anyone else would feel inspired to swap nio’s guts for rust-sdk I tried to plug the UniFFI Python bindings of the Rust SDK on simplematrixbotlib and I had a working prototype with a basic sync loop, with async/await working fine too. The FFI layer of the SDK is really oriented for client usage so we may need to add a bunch of FFI bindings to accommodate other usage. | 20:04:16 |
| MatMaul | at the time the SS proxy was still a thing so the fact that it was relying on it stopped me there. | 20:09:21 |
| MatMaul | https://codeberg.org/MatMaul/simplematrixbotlib/src/branch/proto-rust-sdk I just pushed my proto here in case anyone is interested. | 20:11:14 |
| MatMaul | I am still interested in working in something similar at some point. Mainly because of the fact that we are moving to only trust cross signed devices, and for now matrix-nio doesn't support such a thing. | 20:13:35 |
| MatMaul | ah and also avoiding people hitting me with a CVE stick because of the side channel of olm ^^ | 20:15:25 |
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