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Pantalaimon

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A matrix daemon for offloading E2EE and more | https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon | Latest release 0.9.1 https://pypi.org/project/pantalaimon/61 Servers

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13 Jan 2021
* @Half-Shot:half-shot.ukHalf-Shot ponders if pan gives up resources should the client stop syncing?14:25:42
14 Jan 2021
@poljar:matrix.orgpoljarhow is pan used and how many users does this bridge have? do you use multiple users on the pan side of things or is one user bridging many users?08:35:14
@poljar:matrix.orgpoljari think it's again the issue where the storage hasn't been touched in now almost two years since the plan is to switch to the rust implementation08:36:02
@Half-Shot:half-shot.ukHalf-Shot
In reply to @poljar:matrix.org
how is pan used and how many users does this bridge have? do you use multiple users on the pan side of things or is one user bridging many users?
Many users syncing with pan
12:23:31
@Half-Shot:half-shot.ukHalf-ShotI'd probably guestimate a few hundred at worst, which might explain the usage12:24:38
@Half-Shot:half-shot.ukHalf-ShotIf you sync with pan once, presumably it will keep syncing for that user indefinitely.12:24:53
@poljar:matrix.orgpoljarit does keep it's own sync going on, yes12:29:38
15 Jan 2021
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18 Jan 2021
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19 Jan 2021
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@arehandoro:matrix.orgarehandoroHello, I'm trying to run pantalaimon as a systemd service, in fedora, but I constantly get permission denied when bringing it up. Anyone here has managed to do it locating the service file in the user directory of systemd? Thanks!06:39:22
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@poljar:matrix.orgpoljarany idea what the permission was denied for?10:14:39
@blue_penquin:fairydust.spaceblue_penquin

locating the service file in the user directory of systemd?

You mean /etc/systemd/user or ~/.config/systemd/user? I have it placed under the latter.

11:33:52
@arehandoro:matrix.orgarehandoroI meant the former, will try with the one suggested by you, thanks 🙂12:13:00
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20 Jan 2021
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@james:hoganfam.ukJamescan pantalaimon be used for appservice bridges with fake bridge users?22:20:48
@tulir:maunium.nettulirnot really22:21:31
@james:hoganfam.ukJamesis that because it just doesn't do appservice api or something, or because there isnt a way without proper encryption in the bridge or bridge sdk?22:24:08
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellionPantalaimon is a matrix client that pretends to be an HS so it can't be pushed to from an AS22:28:00
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellionI thought h-s and tulir had done some e2e bridging stuff though22:28:38
@james:hoganfam.ukJamesoh i see, it'd need to intercept the homeserver->appservice stuff22:29:16
@james:hoganfam.ukJames hmm, this seems to suggest its possible:
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-bridge/pull/231
but iiuc only by logging users in (guessing that means fake appservice users) so they can individually interact with pan and get unencrypted events via sync
22:48:20
@tulir:maunium.nettulir
In reply to @james:hoganfam.uk
hmm, this seems to suggest its possible:
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-bridge/pull/231
but iiuc only by logging users in (guessing that means fake appservice users) so they can individually interact with pan and get unencrypted events via sync
it requires extensive support in the bridge itself
23:07:08
@tulir:maunium.nettulirat which point you may as well do proper encryption in the bridge23:07:23
22 Jan 2021
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