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29 Sep 2023 | ||
We should really make configuring mailman easier. Maybe even offer the option to add what's required in setup | 14:31:53 | |
that'd be super. seems like an increasingly common request, maybe related to google's ongoing project to drive google groups into the ground... | 14:32:59 | |
I am not convinced of the practicality of it though... nowadays with DMARC everywhere... I doubt that ARC signatures of small players are trusted by the big boys | 14:34:26 | |
They are not. Microsoft usually pits me into spam folders. When I talk to the techs, they say it is a personal somain so cannot be trusted | 15:00:01 | |
In reply to @neo:shdw.frSame here | 15:05:55 | |
In reply to @nextgens:matrix.org i have this (trying to set
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In reply to @nextgens:matrix.org* i have this (trying to set
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No, sorry | 15:12:43 | |
Hello good afternoon, I have the installation in a qnap x64, and when I install I get this warning, what do I do? | 18:35:04 | |
Download Screenshot 2023-09-29 at 20-30-07 TS-253A-Qnap.png | 18:35:06 | |
root:disabling hardened-malloc on this cpu | 18:35:40 | |
nothing, it's just incompatible with that CPU | 19:19:14 | |
30 Sep 2023 | ||
3wc ~ they/them superfly Based on the great blog post you mentioned (which seems to be the single complete resource regarding mailu+mailman), the documentation from docker mailman and looking at the mailu source I've used the following for
Then add domains in mailman as usual and also add it to the mailu mail domains (not the relay domains). Then generate dkim stuff in mailu and add it to the DNS like usual. Also make sure the domain has no wildcard receive (e.g. | 09:36:48 | |
Also note that I added the mailman containers to the same docker network that mailu uses and that relay_domains in the master.cf mentioned above is commented out. | 09:39:47 | |
* Also note that I added the mailman containers to the same docker network that mailu uses and that relay_domains in the postfix.cf mentioned above is commented out. | 11:10:40 | |
In reply to @qg:supercable.onlthat's incredible qg, bless you for posting 🙏 I'm going to excitedly try this out today! ❤️ | 13:34:48 | |
meanwhile, following nextgens' hint, i found out how mailman itself can do ARC signing - it seems to be working OK, although struggling to test - and will post what i found today also | 13:35:35 | |
related: anyone know a good tool for testing ARC? i usually use mail-tester.com or mxtoolbox.com to check mail stuff, neither seems to support it | 13:36:02 | |
* related ❓️ anyone know a good tool for testing ARC? i usually use mail-tester.com or mxtoolbox.com to check mail stuff, neither seems to support it | 13:36:11 | |
* related ❓️ anyone know a good tool for testing ARC? i usually use mail-tester.com or mxtoolbox.com to check mail stuff, neither seems to support ARC | 13:36:19 | |
Just try it out. email one of the lists you host from a domain that has a strict DMARC/reject policy, see what happens | 13:44:12 | |
* Just try it out. email one of the lists you host from a domain that has a strict DMARC/reject policy, see what happens and whether gmail recipients see the message | 13:44:32 | |
I'm not 100% sure of how Mailu/rspamd would handle it either | 13:45:14 | |
What would be the advantage of ARC as a non big player? I've not read into it in detail, but it doesn't really seem beneficial for our small setups. | 14:08:06 | |
You need it to operate a mailing list; without you can't "impersonate" another domain if it is DMARC protected | 16:11:28 | |
It's also useful when you forward emails and why Mailu signs everything with it | 16:12:04 | |
In reply to @nextgens:matrix.orgBut the recipient would need to trust the mailing list operator? I've given up on impersonating as this is almost certain a guarantee for being classified as spam or being plain rejected. Changing from is not ideal, but it just works™. | 16:36:39 | |
In reply to @nextgens:matrix.orgSo this is not something that needs to be set up and works out of the box with mailu? | 16:37:07 | |
well that's the whole idea: you build trust as a mailing list operator with your ARC key | 16:37:23 | |
Somehow I doubt that works with only around 25 people on 16 different domains and only a very low mail volume. | 17:01:36 |