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2 Sep 2023
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier Julian Finn <julian@phinn.de> Re: [hackerspaces] understaing some hackerspace history
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Post german reunificaiton a _lot_ of buildings in East Berlin were simply vacant. This went on for many years (and with government buildings it’s still partially the case - there’s currently a project going on that allows non-profits to use parts of “Haus der Statistik” until it has been renovated)

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3 Sep 2023
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier Lars-Magnus Skog <ralphtheninja@riseup.net> Re: [hackerspaces] understaing some hackerspace history
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Hi Nate!

You could read some actual research on the topic if you're up for it. Maxigas has written a pretty extensive piece that brings up a lot of historic background.

https://www.research.lancs.ac.uk/portal/en/publications/hacklabs-and-hackerspaces(ecb4da64-e8c7-4466-9a40-55214d903183)/export.html

Cheers
Magnus

Nathaniel Bezanson skrev: (2 september 2023 21:36:12 UTC)
07:51:28
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier Lars-Magnus Skog <ralphtheninja@riseup.net> Re: [hackerspaces] understaing some hackerspace history
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Allow me to actually provide you a better url for this article;l:

http://peerproduction.net/issues/issue-2/peer-reviewed-papers/hacklabs-and-hackerspaces/

Sorry for the noise peeps! <3

Magnus

Nathaniel Bezanson skrev: (2 september 2023 21:36:12 UTC)
07:55:22
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier Vesna Manojlovic <becha@xs4all.nl> Re: [hackerspaces] understaing some hackerspace history
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Hi Nate,

would you please share back your presentation?


> a move by then-East-Germany to allocate a fraction of state-owned
buildings to culture, before turning > everything loose in a
marketeconomy, as the reason C-base exists how and where it does. Where
can I > learn more about this legislation/allocation?


In Dutch history, there is a connection between squatters
movement/legislation & early hackerspaces (before they were called that
way) , and also a connection between other counter-cultures movements &
hackers (hippies, anarchists...)


Dorien Zadbergen wrote about the digital activism of the two
hackergroups ASCII and the Genderchangers in Amsterdam squats.

In Dutch: https://dorienzandbergen.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/scriptie1.pdf



Dorien Zadbergen also wrote about hackers & Silicon Valley:
https://dorienzandbergen.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/dissertation_zandbergen_updated1.pdf


Plus, there is a movie about Hippies From Hell:

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/hippies_from_hell

http://hippies.waag.org



I have collected many links about hackerspaces here:

https://wiki.techinc.nl/Hackers_tribes#About_hackerspaces
I wrote  about European hackerspaces I was visiting while organising
"hackerspace tours"

https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/six-years-of-hackerspaces-tours-during-ripe-meetings

https://wiki.techinc.nl/Hackerspaces_tour

And about differences between East-Europe & West-Europe hackerspaces...



And then there are more  articles about Detroit & hackers ;-)

* Five ways hackers can build better cities -- from -- World Economic
Forum in Davos !

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2014/07/five-ways-hackers-build-better-city/


And I am copying Patrice, who is a living legend & an unofficial
historian of hackers movement... who might be able to add some more
wisdom about the early days.


Regards,

Vesna


09:11:49
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier <jg@monochrom.at> Re: [hackerspaces] understaing some hackerspace history
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4 Sep 2023
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier <ijon@c-base.org> Re: [hackerspaces] understaing some hackerspace history
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Moin,

not entirely sure if this even was a legislative move, or just an administrative decision of the city of berlin. The building in which c-base is, is owned by a cooperative (Rungestr. 20). That cooperative was founded in ~2000 and bought the building from the WBM (WBM Wohnungsbaugesellschaft Berlin-Mitte), which is a state owned housing organisation for the district of Mitte in Berlin.

The building was previously a government building from the GDR and was used as central book storage. After the GDR broke down, the WBM had rented out this very dilapidated building to creative people and artists for a temporary period for very cheap.

Through state subsidies and because of the fact that the WBM was acting as security for a line of credit, the cooperative was enabled to buy the house. if that line of credit would have defaulted, the building would've been repossessed by WBM.

c-base was founded in 1995, but had a prior location, which was in the Oranienburger Str. 3, before c-base moved in 2000 in the Rungestr. 20. When the Cooperative was founded, a large amount of repairwork and reconstruction had to be done, so that c-base actually moved out of that location for several months, while the location was being restored. I believe c-base moved back in the cooperative in 2002.

Some more details can be found here: https://taz.de/Gewerbe-mit-Genossen/!5516947/
but it is in German.

Hope this helps,

Cheers
ijon
08:45:58
6 Sep 2023
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier dosman <dosman@packetsniffers.org> Re: [hackerspaces] understaing some hackerspace history
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I glossed over the paper referenced earlier: http://peerproduction.net/issues/issue-2/peer-reviewed-papers/hacklabs-and-hackerspaces/

It seems like a reasonable history of things. Focusing on question 1 for the US side of the pond though, for the divergence of Makerspaces and Hackerspaces I’d add this. I remember the very first season of Make Magazine was really the best of 2600 for the past several years. It seemed like dozens of the most interesting hardware hack articles of 2600 were re-written and submitted for the full-color format and possibly in a more lighthearted tone to fit the more family-oriented theme of Make. Another thing happening in parallel was the TV show Mythbusters launched in 2003 and was in its hay-day by 2006 when Make launched, plus the junction of Robot Wars which was also in its prime. Myself and other founding members of our space were very interested in both robotics and hacking as expressions of abusing materials to do interesting and novel things in a very general sense. Our space had a focus on robotics early on which seemed like a good combination of coding and hardware that we could support, we started forming in 2009 and were official by 2010. So we focused on electronics and hardware (PCB etching and drilling, and actuators - robot limbs). However the shop tools are general purpose tools which attracted non-robotics uses and we were fine with that as it helped us gain members and momentum. I think I added our first scope by 2011 by finding a good deal on a used one, and we always had soldering irons of course. At some point we even got a reflow oven, but it’s only gotten limited use. As we grew and could support individual workshops areas we eventually spawned a separate electronics/radio lab, wood shop, auto-bay, and metal shop areas. I started teaching machining classes because you need to know how to run a lathe and mill to make metal robot parts, plus it’s good for making interesting lockpicking tools. After a decade+ our wood shop/auto bay is the highest used area of our space and not much in the way of robotics activity takes place as far as I’m aware (there is still electronics work that happens though). Yet somehow we do still attract a small core group of well-intentioned members with the devious hacker mindset.

Another component happening is that I recall a lot of hacker parents were drawn to our space just because STEM/STEAM was the nearest adjacent field to hacking that was available to get their kids involved in before their kids were able to work with software. We also got into workshops to spread knowledge on topics members were interested in teaching which varied wildly. We had very successful soldering classes, how-to-sysadmin, running mail servers, etc. But welding, running the laser cutter, 3D printer, etc. seems to be in higher demand and since we could support those and that drove some focus there and to other “workshop areas". So all of these things seemed to help steer us slightly away from a L0pht type space and towards the “makerspace” environment.

So in short, for us at least, the woodshop and metalshop pay the bills to keep the electronics lab and hackerspace-spirit flame alive.
23:52:14
8 Sep 2023
@deknos82:matrix.orgdeknos82Hey, i have a question: we want to monitor 3d printers with some webcams and trigger some signal, when they are done. does anyone have experience building image recognition/analysis so we see there's no movement to trigger some signal? or anything else how to observe 3d printers (via webcam)?07:53:45
@zeno4ever:matrix.orgzeno4ever deknos82: use Octoprint? there is for sure a plugin available to send a message when a print is ready. At TkkrLab we have 2 prusa mini that can be connected to the network, so we check the status page of the printer en when print is 100% sound a 'ping' sound ;-) 14:28:07
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30 Oct 2023
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier Vesna Manojlovic <becha@xs4all.nl> [hackerspaces] Hackerspaces as hosts for the Local Hubs for RIPE87?
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Dear hackerspaces,

RIPE87 is in Rome, 27.11 - 1.12.2023. https://ripe87.ripe.net

This event might be of interest for the people in your communities, but
instead of traveling all the way there... and instead of watching the
meeting remotely on your lonely self...

... you can organise a Local Hub together!

Participating as a community, watching together, and talking to each
other in person in a smaller group:
https://ripe87.ripe.net/attend/call-for-local-hubs/


I've had positive experiences with Local Hubs in hackathons, Wikimedia,
CCC & "Computing within Limits" conferences... now looking forward to
testing this out with RIPE!


Regards,
Vesna

(Senior Community Builder, RIPE NCC)
https://labs.ripe.net/author/becha/
13:46:58
10 Nov 2023
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier LDCVmetaQuatre <metabaron@massmulti.org> [hackerspaces] Hacking Decision Making v4.00
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http://david.venancio.free.fr/?q=node/159
08:28:33
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier LDCVmetaQuatre <metabaron@massmulti.org> Re: [hackerspaces] Hacking Decision Making v4.00
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Aaaah finally I got back my setup to talk via this ML.
Sorry to be so slow.

I registered on Wikidebates, managed by serious ppl.
(They also have a Discord, IRC stays hard to follow
and lacks functionnalities, I'm connected there now)

So.. I'm contacting all of you to get more support !

I'm trying:
- Youtube : just throw some likes (subscribe+notif as usual would be cool)
=https://www.youtube.com/@meta4_1337
- Patreon with Payoneer :https://www.patreon.com/meta_4
- 3DLibre.com (I'm owner) :https://www.3dlibre.com/fonts_v1_news What do you think of the v4.00a of this link on top ?
Text :


Hacking Decision Making

Sun, 05/11/2023 - 13:34 — david.venancio

Santiago-do-Cacem, Portugal. 2023 November the 9th
Version 4.00a - Inspired by https://criticalengineering.org/

Hacking Decision Making
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29 Mar 2024
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier J. Grenzfurthner [Das Ende der Nahrungskette] <jg@monochrom.at> [hackerspaces] Hacking at Leaves
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Hey folks!

I've finished my documentary feature, "Hacking at Leaves". It will premiere at the Diagonale Film Festival in Graz, Austria, on April 6th. Additionally, I'm planning to tour with it, screening at various festivals and hackerspaces.


==cut==
HACKING AT LEAVES
A film by Johannes Grenzfurthner (2024; 108 min.)

'Hacking at Leaves' documents artist and hazmat-suit aficionado Johannes Grenzfurthner as he attempts to come to terms with the United States' colonial past, Navajo tribal history, and the hacker movement. The story hones in on a small tinker space in Durango, Colorado, that made significant contributions to worldwide COVID relief efforts. But things go awry when Uncle Sam interferes with the film's production.

Tags: documentary, hacking, DIY, nerds, colonialism, Navajo, Diné, COVID, pandemic, USA, Southwest, nuclearism, computer culture, sci-fi, subversion

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14493924/

******

Cast and contributors:

Johannes Grenzfurthner (as a version of himself)
Max Grodénchik (as Uncle Sam)
Morningstar Angeline (as an anonymous anarcho-syndicalist Navajo hacker)
Chase Masterson (as two anonymous medical professionals)
Dan Jovanovic (as the voice of Trump)

Interviews with Ryan Finnigan, Sunny Dooley, Stefan Yazzie, Karletta Chief, Raven Chacon, Manny Wheeler, Jello Biafra, Erik Davis, Cory Doctorow, Kudra Owens, Jasmin Hagendorfer, Roland Gratzer, Christian Heller, Adah Parris, Chase Masterson, Franz Ablinger, Keith ‘Doc’ Raymond, Kyla Lacey, Michael J. Epstein, Jake Toledo, Janene Yazzie, Jason Scott, Nick Farr, Jens Ohlig, Karen Elazari, Aphrodite, Sophia Cacciola, Jason Brown, Mitch Altman, Kenyatta Cheese, Johnny Xmas, Jordan White, Julie Carpenter, Florian Cramer, Stefan Tiron, Peter Romine, Emerson Tan, Jeff Susor, Jason Wagner, Chiara Amoroso, and Richard Barbrook.
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31 Mar 2024
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier David Potocnik <david@middlemachine.com> [hackerspaces] Restarting hackerspaces.org meetings
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Hey all,
first, there's recurrent concerns whether this list works at all, or
works from/to google addresses, etc, so this is a test mail, and it
would be nice to get some responses.

Second, to keep the site oiled up and running well, and maybe even
improve it, let's restart the (semi)regular meetings, like around
2019/20?

You can add ideas directly to the agenda here:
https://pad.land/hso-agenda

And come hang out in the chat groups (Matrix, IRC, Telegram):
https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Chat

The meetings archive is here:
https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Meetings

all the best, from Brussels atm,
david/dcht00
16:47:42
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier Dave Borghuis <dave@tkkrlab.nl> Re: [hackerspaces] Restarting hackerspaces.org meetings
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Seems to work, although you send it on the 28th and I just recieved it (on 31th)
Will try to be there, good to restart this.

Till then.
18:50:49
@dcht00:matrix.orgdcht00Oh wow, it was delivered21:56:42
1 Apr 2024
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier Lars-Magnus Skog <ralphtheninja@riseup.net> Re: [hackerspaces] Restarting hackerspaces.org meetings
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It works.

Can someone remind me on what the semi regular meetings schedule was like in 2019/2020 ?

Cheers
Magnus

David Potocnik skrev: (28 mars 2024 01:06:45 UTC)
13:09:15
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier Lars-Magnus Skog <ralphtheninja@riseup.net> Re: [hackerspaces] Restarting hackerspaces.org meetings
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Nevermind. I should have read the agenda first. Sorry for spam.

David Potocnik skrev: (28 mars 2024 01:06:45 UTC)
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12 Apr 2024
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier Vesna Manojlovic <becha@xs4all.nl> [hackerspaces] Call for Local Hubs call for RIPE88 & offering Community Projects Fund & more events
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Dear hackers,

RIPE NCC is organizing many events, most of them "free":
* trainings & webinars
* Open Houses
* Regional Meetings

and "big" RIPE88 in Krakow! 20-24. May: https://ripe88.ripe.net

If you'd like to host a Local Hub, that would be wonderful - and it
would help with increasing decentralisation, sustainability & diversity
/ inclusion:
https://ripe88.ripe.net/attend/call-for-local-hubs/

In return ;-) ...

Just joking...

We also offer funding for FLOSS projects:
RIPE NCC Community Projects Fund: apply before 31st July 2024
https://www.ripe.net/cpf


And here are links to  more events:

Regional meeting in Greece: Athens, 22-23. April:
http://ripe.net/see-12

http://ripe.net/training
- Zagreb: 15-16-17 May
- Barcelona: 5-6 June
- The Hague: 25-26-27 June

Regional Meeting in Kyrgyzstan: Bishkek, 24-25. September:
https://www.ripe.net/capif-3/

Regards,
Vesna
14:21:18
@email:t2bot.ioEmail Notifier David Potocnik <david@middlemachine.com> [hackerspaces] Let's use 'Announce' and 'Discuss' mailing lists again
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Hi,

The Discuss and Announce lists have a new moderation team. We've
confirmed we don't have problems with subscription, or delivery to,
err, some specific popular mail servers anymore.
In the past, mails sent from non-subscribers have been dropped, since
they had to be manually approved, and it unfortunately wasn't looked
at. But that's not going to be a problem anymore.

So go ahead and use them, and feel free to forward this to your channels again.

https://lists.hackerspaces.org/listinfo/announce
post to announce@lists.hackerspaces.org.

https://lists.hackerspaces.org/listinfo/discuss
post to discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org

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