Light_Fiber: Thank you for trying the various AHK send modes. It is odd that none of them work.

I believe the 'try_natlink' feature isn't working for you because it works by sending messages to the foreground window, too. If it is possible, I will adjust this feature to use a different mechanism in the next release.

In the meantime, the instructions for using Dragonfly and Natlink with administrative privileges are as follows:

1. Locate the MacroSystem directory containing your command module files.
2. Select your command module files and move them into a sub-folder named "External".
3. Download or find locally the dfly-natlink-loader.py script.
4. Place that script into the "External" sub-folder.
5. Open a command prompt window as administrator and navigate to the "External" sub-folder.
6. Run python.exe dfly-natlink-loader.py.

Using Dragonfly in this manner is not ideal, really, but hopefully it works for you.

Sorry for the late response and for not updating the docs like I said I would. I will try to get to that soon.

In reply to @danesprite-5a669b15d73408ce4f89a273:gitter.im
Hello Amir,

Thank you for your message and questions.

Unfortunately, Dragonfly won't work properly with editions of Python installed from the Microsoft Store, not without significant effort. These editions are meant for trying out (new versions of) the language, I think. Dragonfly is meant to be used with a system or user installation of Python sourced from www.python.org/downloads.

You ask which version of Python is recommended for Dragonfly. The answer is any recent version, really. I have just tried Python 3.11 (32-bit) and 3.12 (64-bit) with Dragonfly's Windows Speech Recognition (WSR) engine back-end, for instance. Both worked okay. You could use earlier versions instead, but there may be dependency issues.

Do please post the COM object error in the chat if it still occurs with a regular, non-Microsoft-Store Python installation. Some of these errors tend to be related to some issue or another with the pywin32 package.

Hi thanks for the reply.

I’ve been attempting to execute wsr_module_loader_plus.py and dfly-loader-wsr.py from the examples directory. During this process, I encountered an AttributeError in the context.py file while running wsr_module_loader_plus.py in Python 3.12. The error message indicated that the ‘inspect’ module lacks a ‘getargspec’ attribute.

dfly-loader-wsr.py operates without errors in both Python 3.12 and 3.10.5. Additionally, wsr_module_loader_plus.py runs without errors in Python 3.10.5. It appears that the ‘getargspec’ method might be replaced with a different method in current versions of python.

Currently, I haven’t introduced any customizations or grammars; I’m merely executing the example files. My immediate plan is to continue with Python 3.10.5 and begin incorporating my own customizations. I’ll keep an eye out for any potential issues and report them if they arise in the future.

I should also mention that both versions of Python were downloaded from the official Python website, not from the Microsoft Store.

Here's the relevant parts of the error (Python 3.12 running wsr_module_loader_plus.py):

...\dragonfly\examples\wsr_module_loader_plus.py", line 99, in load_sleep_wake_grammar
context = FuncContext(lambda: sleeping),
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...\dragonfly\grammar\context.py", line 393, in init
(args, _, varkw, defaults) = inspect.getargspec(self._function)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: module 'inspect' has no attribute 'getargspec'. Did you mean: 'getargs'?

Hi Amir,

Thank you for the follow-up.

I was aware of but had forgotten about the AttributeError problem you mention. You are correct, this error occurs in Python 3.12, whether installed from the Microsoft Store or not. It has been fixed in the latest release candidate for Dragonfly version 1.0.0, but not in Dragonfly 0.35. You can install that, if you like, with pip install dragonfly2==1.0.0-rc2.

So, my apologies for the confusion. I have been neglecting this project's documentation lately. I will soon update it to recommend specific Python versions. For the moment, I would say your choice of Python 3.10 is a good one.

I would welcome reports on any further issues you encounter with Dragonfly. I hope you find the library useful for whatever you're using it for.