 | Federated Wiki | 210 Members |
| General Federated Wiki Discussion | 35 Servers |
| Federated Wiki | 210 Members |
| General Federated Wiki Discussion | 35 Servers |
| Sender | Message | Time |
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| 18 Oct 2021 | ||
 Ward | Aside: be clear that I did this just to be sure the scripts still worked after all the trouble with google. | 01:29:41 |
 Jeff Miller | Clever geocoding convention. | 08:46:35 |
 paul90 | Something to remember DID (Decentralized identifiers) rely on https. | 13:20:08 |
 robert.best | I'm a newb to this, but that didcomm spec seems to be saying it's "transport independent". | 14:06:50 |
| paul90 | It looks to be about a way of encrypting a message, and not about identity (using DIDs to provide identity). I think that 'transport independent' is just a way of saying they don't rely on any security at the transport layer, by building it into the message. | 14:38:16 |
 eric | 3wc ~ they/them: I found this feature in your demo video particularly cool.
If I'm following that correctly, I think that would allow communities to use other tech (like a shared VPN) to create a private-club sort of wiki farm. | 14:44:27 |
| eric | * 3wc ~ they/them: I found this feature in your demo video particularly cool.
If I'm following that correctly, I think that would allow communities to use other tech (like a shared VPN) to create a private-club sort of wiki farm. | 14:44:33 |
| Ward | In reply to @jmeowmeow:matrix.orgYes, I liked it so much that the Make New Places script now honors it when found and pops up the new page with the marker in the right place. Here I am "arm-chair phototelling" the White House. | 17:19:45 |
| Ward |  Download image.png | 17:19:57 |
| 19 Oct 2021 | ||
| Ward | In reply to @Ward:matrix.org We are learning to live with "friends" security and recognize a few additional options: Creating new sites, and, managing sites for collaborators with my help. New sites can be created but each new site will have its own generated reclaim code and generated handle for a user name. The owner of a new site can edit but don't log out without requesting a reclaim code from me. You can also replace the generated handle with your full name as you are known in your community. If you have a community that intends to use wiki under your supervision you can consolidate reclaim codes and handle replacements which I will process using an as yet undefined bulk process. Marc is pioneering this process with the community employing sofi. This is a step back from the wide-open nature of our farms to date. Remember, we never intended to host wiki sites except as exploration of the federation capabilities until most users operated their own sites by whatever rules they want for them selves and their communities. | 03:12:14 |
| Jeff Miller | wiki-in-a-container, just add hosting, configuration, and federation affiliations; module boundaries allowing updating the engine and substituting providers of necessary services. | 03:15:49 |
| Jeff Miller | I've balked at deploying my own hosted services, beyond forks of WikiBase. I haven't had enough personal motivation to climb the hill of decisions and commitments necessary. Staying connected with the Federated Wiki community, I hope, can provide enough working examples to get me going. | 03:22:36 |
| Jeff Miller | But my side project PixieReport [ https://github.com/jmeowmeow/PixieReport ] has enough pull for me that I would like to get it up as a service. Clearly if I've been picking at it for ten years, I'm going to keep with it unless Tamsin shows up and asks for the keys. | 03:25:27 |
 mike_hales |
I'm firmly in being-hosted mode, on yala 's federated.wiki farm, and potentially on the wiki.cafe https farm that 3wc ~ they/them is working on (with robert.best too). | 13:48:40 |
| mike_hales | Right now I'm stuck, unable to write on any of my federated.wiki sites bcos of Google's OAuth strangulation move. Hoping yala moves swiftly to Friends or the newly revealed NextCloud authentication. | 13:49:05 |
 ori cohen joined the room. | 16:52:25 | |
| Ward | Hello ori cohen Welcome to our chat. | 17:53:47 |
| Ward | Ori is a friend of mine from work. | 17:54:48 |
| Ward | In reply to @mike_hales:matrix.orgI have turned what looked to be an ugly task into a couple days of "workflow automation" using the "nodule" technology that has developed over the last couple of months. This is surely a "make lemonade" approach that may not be attractive to @yala or others because they end up in a slightly expanded support role as the designated friend of the site users. | 21:22:56 |
| Ward | I am happy to help any site operator use the workflow software I have written. https://github.com/WardCunningham/assets/tree/master/pages/login-migration-assistant | 21:31:08 |
| Ward | We also have folks here with experience adding https to wiki sites. This adds a different set of restrictions. I have been told it is easy by developers who have installed Let's Encrypt on their static blog. I don't think it is so easy but it is a more professional look. | 21:34:17 |
| Ward | A third choice that is probably the least attractive but available right now is to make a new site, <yourname>.tries.fed.wiki, and move the pages you want to edit there. You can use the /system/export.json endpoint to get an export of your site then drag it to you new site and fork pages one at a time into there. The reverse process will work to put things back when the farm is again available. | 21:38:24 |
| Ward | * A third choice that is probably the least attractive but available right now is to make a new site, <yourname>.tries.fed.wiki, and move the pages you want to edit there. You can use the /system/export.json endpoint to get an export of your site then drag it to you new site and fork pages one at a time into there. The reverse process will work to put things back when the farm is again available. | 21:45:50 |
| Ward | Here is a small site owned by David which google now denies login. http://hacks.fedwiki.org/ | 22:01:53 |
| Ward | Google does not interfere with exporting contents from this site. http://hacks.fedwiki.org/system/export.json | 22:03:03 |
| Ward | If I save that file to Downloads and then drag the download to my own site it look like this: | 22:07:47 |
| Ward |  Download image.png | 22:07:56 |
| Ward | I can now click to view any of these pages and then fork to begin editing. | 22:12:13 |
| Ward | Large sites might be more easily exported with curl at the command line.curl http://hacks.fedwiki.org/system/export.json > export.json | 22:14:21 |
| Ward | I am happy to help anyone forward in the chat here or on our wednesday call tomorrow. | 22:15:44 |