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14 May 2022
@marcpierson:matrix.orgmarcpiersonRedacted or Malformed Event21:58:21
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15 May 2022
@marcpierson:matrix.orgmarcpiersonSunday Explorers at the top of the hour: Sundy Explorers meet soon here: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86797667732?pwd=T1IvdEtVc2cxTzh3YlBOc0hiNjFtUT0915:17:43
16 May 2022
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@Ward:matrix.orgWardTry the Cypher Grammar Doctor: http://ward.dojo.fed.wiki/assets/pages/mock-graph-data/doctor.html?match%20(project:Project{name:%22Delta%20Xi%22})%3C-[]-(service)-[{environment:%22production%22}]-(stat:Statistic)22:26:28
17 May 2022
@marcpierson:matrix.orgmarcpiersonHelp: I have just created a new site on the RelocalizeCreativity server. The recent changes brings in stuff from other sites. Why? xxhttps://coop.relocalizecreativity.net/view/welcome-visitors/view/recent-changes/view/recent-changes_rev301:28:57
@marcpierson:matrix.orgmarcpiersonVery interesting, in the process of pasting the link here the problem resolved. I should have done a screen shot.01:30:32
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@marcpierson:matrix.orgmarcpiersonShows 65 pages instead of the 5 that are on the site.01:37:12
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@marcpierson:matrix.orgmarcpiersonHum, There is an "older" favicon with the same colors that has a lot of pages associated with it.01:41:15
@Ward:matrix.orgWardI see this on one of the pages. That will add to your neighborhood.04:27:22
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@Ward:matrix.orgWardYou can hover over a flag to see what site it represents.04:29:02
@Robert.Best:matrix.orgrobert.bestWhern using PassportJS auth with wiki... how does one psecify and use an admin user?16:49:03
@Robert.Best:matrix.orgrobert.best * Whern using PassportJS auth with wiki... how does one specify and use an admin user?16:50:16
@Ward:matrix.orgWardThe auth provider, Google say, will provide a user id that will show up in the owner.json for a claimed site. This is the auth code required to make that owner the admin.20:49:49
@jmeowmeow:matrix.orgJeff MillerEric gave me a walkthrough of SVGs in FedWiki in his local environment while troubleshooting the missing borders and shadows provided by SVG filters. The persistent A/B difference appears to be "SVG in a HTML plugin = no filter effects; SVG in a Frame plugin = filter effects."22:51:30
@jmeowmeow:matrix.orgJeff MillerIt belatedly occurs to me that maybe an SVG in a Frame plugin could be wired to dispatch from clickable graph nodes to named wiki pages, though getting relative URLs correct might be trickier?22:54:15
18 May 2022
@marcpierson:matrix.orgmarcpiersonEric and Jeff, the content in the top two images on this page are of the same SVG. The context is in Eric's professional domain. http://marc.tries.fed.wiki/view/tripod-beta-safety-graph05:13:43
@marcpierson:matrix.orgmarcpiersonTripod Beta could have transformed medical system safety. My company prefered to pay off families for the injuries rather than prevent the injuries. It just was not a priority. They had more familiarity with their lawyers and liability claims than they did in organizational change that involved doctors and nurses. The administrators were terrified of medical professionals and kept a "safe" distance from them whenever possible.05:17:02
@Robert.Best:matrix.orgrobert.best
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The auth provider, Google say, will provide a user id that will show up in the owner.json for a claimed site. This is the auth code required to make that owner the admin.

I'll ask 3wc ~ they/them to play with me a little more to get this to work. We are using keycloak as the oauth provider I think... And passportjs auth is working fine for us to let users authenticate into sites... All that is in their owner.json files is their username. We tried putting a username into the admin parameter in the config.json file to see if that's all that was needed to specify who the admin user is (for using plugmatic etc) but that didn't work. I could authenticate into the wiki site, but then plugmatic told me I wasn't the admin user.

Maybe someone has a working example if how to specify the admin user when using passportjs?

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@Robert.Best:matrix.orgrobert.best* I'll ask 3wc ~ they/them: to play with me a little more to get this to work. We are using keycloak as the oauth provider I think... And passportjs auth is working fine for us to let users authenticate into sites... All that is in their owner.json files is their username. We tried putting a username into the admin parameter in the config.json file to see if that's all that was needed to specify who the admin user is (for using plugmatic etc) but that didn't work. I could authenticate into the wiki site, but then plugmatic told me I wasn't the admin user. Maybe someone has a working example if how to specify the admin user when using passportjs?13:55:49
@Ward:matrix.orgWardI was sitting in on a conference symposium regarding urban design with folks strongly influenced by Chris Alexander's Pattern Language. They have always protested that the economics of cities prevents good, human scale, design. A smart guy, Paul Murrain, suggested a progression in development with respect to risk: First the risk oblivious start something, then the risk aware improve it, finally the risk adverse blocks any further innovation. Oblivious ⇒ aware ⇒ adverse. An interesting progression, not unlike Wardley's horizontal axis.16:04:51
@Ward:matrix.orgWard * I was sitting in on a conference symposium regarding urban design with folks strongly influenced by Chris Alexander's Pattern Language. They have always protested that the economics of cities prevents good, human scale, design. A smart guy, Paul Murrain, suggested a progression in development with respect to risk: First the risk oblivious start something, then the risk aware improve it, finally the risk adverse block any further innovation. Oblivious ⇒ aware ⇒ adverse. An interesting progression, not unlike Wardley's horizontal axis.16:05:21
@Ward:matrix.orgWardFederated wiki dev/user video chat starts in 15 minutes. https://zoom.us/j/619897150?pwd=M1d3WjJYc2x3NEcwQnZyWDYwaHhsQT09 16:46:20
@billseitz:matrix.orgBill Seitz
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I was sitting in on a conference symposium regarding urban design with folks strongly influenced by Chris Alexander's Pattern Language. They have always protested that the economics of cities prevents good, human scale, design. A smart guy, Paul Murrain, suggested a progression in development with respect to risk: First the risk oblivious start something, then the risk aware improve it, finally the risk adverse block any further innovation. Oblivious ⇒ aware ⇒ adverse. An interesting progression, not unlike Wardley's horizontal axis.
Pioneer, Settler, Town Planner.... Rentier
20:24:59
@Ward:matrix.orgWard Bill Seitz: Federated wiki is at the Settler stage? 20:26:42
@billseitz:matrix.orgBill Seitz
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Bill Seitz: Federated wiki is at the Settler stage?
maybe still Pioneer
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