| 18 Jan 2017 |
 Hierophant | that civilization requires a lower class to do all the dirty work? | 07:15:46 |
 MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | yeah but they didnt use their own lower class | 07:16:03 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | well they probly did actually | 07:16:11 |
| Hierophant | I dunno dude | 07:16:16 |
| Hierophant | they just need some lower class | 07:16:25 |
| Hierophant | doesn't matter where it's from | 07:16:28 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | how did the lower class end up that way | 07:18:17 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | tribes were egalitarian mostly but there wasnt anyhing to hoard anywyas | 07:18:42 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | then we start producing food which takes classes | 07:19:02 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | the higher class have to plan things | 07:19:10 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | then it just went from there i guess | 07:19:42 |
| Hierophant | right | 07:21:27 |
| Hierophant | well, not really | 07:21:35 |
| Hierophant | you don't need that much planning to have agriculture | 07:21:43 |
| Hierophant | sure, you need more planning | 07:21:53 |
| Hierophant | but normal people can still do it | 07:21:58 |
| Hierophant | even idiots | 07:22:08 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | but the creation of society maybe | 07:22:16 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | government | 07:22:25 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | there were indian tribes who had agriculture and built buildings and stuff but not very advanced society | 07:22:53 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | the southwest american indians | 07:23:18 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | but they were still pretty tribal so i doubt they had anything like a king | 07:24:01 |
| Hierophant | I don't think they had kings no | 07:24:10 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | they were small communities of a fw hundred people | 07:24:15 |
| Hierophant | they were pretty egalitarian | 07:24:15 |
| MeowWhereTheRiversMeet | what economic system did rome fall under | 07:28:26 |
| Hierophant | I have no idea | 07:29:29 |
| Hierophant | but they came into cultures and wrecked their economies | 07:29:39 |
| Hierophant | and gave privileges to those who were siding with Rome | 07:29:50 |
| Hierophant | so basically they were neo-liberalists before their time lol | 07:30:02 |
