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3 Aug 2024
@type-iix:tchncs.detype-iixAnd so I won't be investing in a QubesOS laptop01:40:33
@type-iix:tchncs.detype-iixThe lack of any migration support01:41:03
@type-iix:tchncs.detype-iixLeaves a bad taste in my mouth01:41:09
@type-iix:tchncs.detype-iixSad, because technically it's great01:41:14
@type-iix:tchncs.detype-iixBut practically, terrible01:41:19
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@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)
In reply to @type-iix:tchncs.de
The lack of any migration support
Wait, what?
22:14:20
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)
In reply to @type-iix:tchncs.de
I have found adrelanos to be cavalierly dismissive
Well, I can't attest to the helpfulness of any Whonix developers, but Qubes isn't maintained by the same people as Whonix, and IME Qubes' developers are very helpful
22:17:04
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)People often talk about Qubes+Whonix as though it's just a way of running Whonix. Which is unfortunate, because that's unfair to both Qubes and Whonix22:20:03
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)Qubes is far more than just a glorified hypervisor to run Whonix on top of22:20:35
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34has anybody heard Creepjs?23:17:04
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34it is a browser fingerprint tool23:17:14
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)Yeah, it's fairly well-known23:17:15
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34o losiento23:17:25
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34it works on Tor Browser?23:17:35
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34it was coded by who?23:18:03
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)It works on every browser. The question is whether how much useful information it's able to gather23:18:12
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)Well, any JS-enabled browser23:18:32
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34it uses entropy?23:18:41
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)I suppose you could say that23:19:21
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34what is the most vulnerable fingerprinting property of Tor Browser23:20:08
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34a high entropy API?23:20:15
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)The fact that it needs to work on different operating systems23:20:49
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)If Tor Browser only worked on a single very specific OS, it would be entirely impossible to fingerprint. It would also be basically useless to the large majority of users23:21:26
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34si claro23:21:56
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34this javascript property can be changed?23:22:22
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34user/agent?23:22:27
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena)
In reply to @chile09:matrix.org
this javascript property can be changed?
Tor Browser has 3 security levels: Safe, Safer, and Safest
23:22:54
@memorysafetybelike:envs.netBabba27's Evil Twin (DriftNotSkid) [they|them] (🕊️ Lena) Safest mode disables JS entirely within Tor Browser 23:23:04
@chile09:matrix.orgrolodondo34si23:23:35

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