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@swedneck:permaweb.ioswedneck:permaweb.ioriot-desktop is really just an extra thing that electron enables09:39:34
@swedneck:permaweb.ioswedneck:permaweb.iowithout electron there just wouldn't be a riot desktop app i'm pretty sure09:39:46
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@lotus_:matrix.orglotus_

swedneck:permaweb.io well de-facto there is no riot desktop, which is sad thing

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@lotus_:matrix.orglotus_

Dandellion I am currently seeking xmpp alternative... still don't see why Matrix any better, pretty much same, but with undeveloped "infrastructure", lack of functionality and clients

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@swedneck:permaweb.ioswedneck:permaweb.iothe electron release is literally called riot-desktop09:50:50
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@neilalexander:matrix.orgneilalexander
In reply to @lotus_:matrix.org

I personally refuse to participate in such maddness, to run a web-client in kind-a-desktop version of it, which is just a browser with only one tab with that riot-web, crap. Should we have something C++, Rust, Python at least for primary desktop client? XMPP for example does have a lot of proper desktop clients, which are really decent, and zero electron shit

Ignoring obvious difficulties with Electron for things like a11y, Electron probably does make most sense for a flagship client right now as it's very easy to target the three main desktop platforms with it with feature parity. That said, there are other desktop clients available as I am sure that you know by now
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@lotus_:matrix.orglotus_

wrong

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@dud1337:chat.138.iodud1337Well argued09:54:47
@lotus_:matrix.orglotus_

it is bloated heavy slow and many other bad things, flagship client should be C++ or something, with variable toolkits for various systems

09:55:16
@lotus_:matrix.orglotus_

GNU/Linux and *BSD and Apple OS pretty much same platform

09:55:49
@neilalexander:matrix.orgneilalexanderIf you have ever had the joy of trying to write a GUI app for Linux, BSDs and macOS all at the same time then you will know that's not really as simple as you make it out to be09:56:17

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