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29 Feb 2024
@fnz:matrix.orgfnz

Verifying with Pantalaimon was a lot more annoying this time

I think what I got stuck on, was the fact that you need to connect to Pantalaimon with your client (Ement) to verify, but then you need to restart your client right after it’s done or most things don’t work for most people (because nobody has immaculately verified sessions). At least, that’s the impression I got.

I’m disillusioned by Nheko now and Fractal 5 isn’t packaged for Guix; I’ll try Ement for some time and if I can figure the Pantalaimon interactions out, I’ll try to write something for the official documentation like @alphapapa requested one time

11:24:25
@fnz:matrix.orgfnz

Wellllllll, it seems I can only send messages from Ement and not recieve them LMAO

11:29:53
@fnz:matrix.orgfnzAt least on encrypted chats11:30:22
@suckless_shill:matrix.orgvizThere's already a document on getting e2ee working thru the proxy. I think the PR is merged12:20:02
@suckless_shill:matrix.orgvizAnd you might find a solution for your problem too 12:20:21
@alphapapa:matrix.orgalphapapa
In reply to zayd
In reply to@phil.catalyst:matrix.org

What was the problem with the default value?

the problem is that it wasn't saving my login when i relaunch emacs

This is why you should use the customization system instead of trying to set various options and hoping that one of them does something you want. Package authors spend time documenting the options and specifying allowed values, but then some users start setq'ing this and that, and then when something doesn't work right, they end up having to ask for help. There's no reason to do things the hard way like that. Just follow the intended way and it will be easy and work.

13:39:52
@alphapapa:matrix.orgalphapapa
In reply to glenneth⚡🐫
Good morning :)

Hi Glenneth

13:40:08
@alphapapa:matrix.orgalphapapa
In reply to fnz
I'm not seeing some texts on Ement that I do on FluffyChat, in the main Emacs room. I assume that's not normal

No, that would not be normal. But I'm not aware of any such bugs. So if you can reproduce it, and if you can provide a list of the raw events in question, please file a bug report.

13:40:59
@glenneth:matrix.orgglenneth⚡🐫Hi all. My Ement session wasn't updating. I thought it was quiet :D16:08:45
@alphapapa:matrix.orgalphapapa
In reply to glenneth⚡🐫
Hi all. My Ement session wasn't updating. I thought it was quiet :D

Hm, I still need to add the option to automatically retry syncing after interruption.

16:09:22
@glenneth:matrix.orgglenneth⚡🐫Just got a flood of messages lol16:10:04
@kandread_umass.edu:matrix.orgKostas Andreadis changed their display name from kandread to Kostas Andreadis.17:38:08
@fnz:matrix.orgfnz> There's already a document on getting e2ee working thru the proxy. Oh, sick, I’ll check it out. Uhhh. Embarassingly, though, I wasn’t able to get texts then because I didn’t connect back through the proxy the second time around 😭18:01:38
@fnz:matrix.orgfnz
In reply to alphapapa
In reply to fnz
I'm not seeing some texts on Ement that I do on FluffyChat, in the main Emacs room. I assume that's not normal

No, that would not be normal. But I'm not aware of any such bugs. So if you can reproduce it, and if you can provide a list of the raw events in question, please file a bug report.

Oh no, another false alarm, sorry. I got confused with the unfamiliar UI, I wasn't looking at the right place in the timeline
18:06:05
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@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtn

I'm trying to customise the date/time format for the room messages. I wanted to put a newline between date and time, so that I could reduce the right margin. However, neither \n nor

21:10:35
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtnI'm trying to customise the date/time format for the room messages. I wanted to put a newline between date and time, so that I could reduce the right margin. However, neither \n nor \ seems to work.21:11:13
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtn

(line feed … apparently hard to share on Matrix).

21:11:42
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtn(nor line feed ... apparently hard to share on Matrix).21:11:59
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtn

So, neither \n, ^j nor ^m seems to work.

21:25:04
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtnSo, neither \n, ^J nor ^M seems to work.21:25:23
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtn

I guess I would have to mangle with sauce to get it to work the way I want?

21:26:13
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtn

Hmm .. seems to be a bit hard to do in a generalised way, with the different message-formats we have.

21:39:23
@phil.catalyst:matrix.orgPhil

I think the margin display properties in Emacs are associated with the line on which the propertized text appears? To get two lines in the margin, I think you'd need separate margin-propertized text on both of those lines (Ement's message formatting doesn't support doing anything like that). I'd also speculate that if you managed to display a single piece of margin text over two lines, you might then find the associated text in the main part of the buffer had doubled its line height to match (but that's nothing more than a guess).

22:00:52
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtn

Yeah … depending on how it was implemented, and what message format was chosen.

22:03:25
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtn

For the message format I use at this moment, I could split date and time, and then put the date on the same line as the nick, and the time on the same line as where the message started. However, that would easily crumple if I later decide to use an IRC-style formatting, where the nick is in the left margin on the first line of the message.

22:05:26
1 Mar 2024
@suckless_shill:matrix.orgvizYeah margins can't have a newline in them01:35:20
@suckless_shill:matrix.orgvizYou need to slice the text 01:35:27
@glenneth:matrix.orgglenneth⚡🐫Good morning :)06:39:00
@mrtnmrtn:matrix.orgMrtn

For now I just chose another message format without left margin. That way I feel I can afford the longer right margin. Also, I compressed the format by removing :'s and -'s.

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