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19 Jan 2020
22:58:47@travis:t2l.ioTravisRIt's the ancient version of the docs folder in the topic of this room
22:59:58@travis:t2l.ioTravisROr at least it was. It looks to be useless now
23:00:16@aaron:raim.istAaronYeah it seems like something that should just be deleted
23:02:10@matthew:matrix.orgMatthewi'd prefer we didn't delete the ancient history (drafts, attic) etc, otherwise archaeology becomes needlessly hard
23:02:43@matthew:matrix.orgMatthew!github create "the SSO section of CS API could really do with some sequence diagrams"
23:02:44@_neb_github:matrix.orgGithubCreated issue: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/2417
23:03:43@travis:t2l.ioTravisRWe can at least merge the directories
23:03:46@nep:pink.packageloss.eunepheleversion controll to the rescue :)
23:04:21@deepbluev7:neko.devNico

Well, even with version control it is sometimes hard to discover deleted files

23:04:21@travis:t2l.ioTravisRNot advocating we delete drafts, just contain the archeological dig site
23:04:46@nep:pink.packageloss.eunepheleNico: yeah, but it makes reasoning about the past easier
23:05:26@deepbluev7:neko.devNico

I don't see how that makes it easier, since both still clearly have dates, if you delete the file or not

23:06:10@deepbluev7:neko.devNico

Keeping old stuff around is an issue when programming, but with docs and specs, when they are clearly labeled as historical, I see keeping them around as a benefit

23:06:49@travis:t2l.ioTravisR
In reply to@matthew:matrix.org
!github create "the SSO section of CS API could really do with some sequence diagrams"
It's 4 steps?
23:07:34@travis:t2l.ioTravisR*5
23:07:59@matthew:matrix.orgMatthewyup, but a picture tells a thousand words
23:08:43@nep:pink.packageloss.eunephelemust be a highly compressed picture
23:09:11@travis:t2l.ioTravisRIt'd be a very boring sequence diagram. The numbered list feels clearer than a diagram.
23:10:51@travis:t2l.ioTravisRThe synapse docs could certainly use a sequence diagram for how it works
23:11:22@travis:t2l.ioTravisR

The spec doesn't really concern itself with how the auth system and homeserver "interact"

21 Jan 2020
15:25:06@vermillioncore:matrix.orgvermillion:coreRedacted or Malformed Event
15:11:33@grin:grin.hugrin

why do I get presence and account_data events in /sync reply when I had

filter1='{"presence":{"limit":0},"account_data":{"limit":0},"room":{"rooms":["'${roomId}'"],"state":{"lazy_load_members":true}}}'
15:11:45@grin:grin.hugrin *

why do I get presence and account_data events in /sync reply when I had

filter1='{"presence":{"limit":0},"account_data":{"limit":0},"room":{"rooms":["'${roomId}'"],"state":{"lazy_load_members":true}}}'
15:12:04@grin:grin.hugrin *

why do I get presence and account_data events in /sync reply when I had

filter1='{"presence":{"limit":0},"account_data":{"limit":0},"room":{"rooms":["'${roomId}'"],"state":{"lazy_load_members":true}}}'
15:14:29@grin:grin.hugrinOr how shall I join a room then get only the last few message events, and nothing else really (maybe room create and its state changes)? Or, phrasing a different way. how can I join a new room the fastest way possible to get the last few messages and able to reply them, without any more info (like members or old messages)?
16:43:34@travis:t2l.ioTravisR Probably some variation of https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/4299 rather than a spec problem. #matrix-dev:matrix.org is preferred for development questions.
23:00:05@grin:grin.hugrin TravisR: Well I am in phase1, which is to ask whether what I am doing is proper spec-wise. ;-)
23:00:51@travis:t2l.ioTravisRwhen in doubt, over-specify the filter
23:01:15@deepbluev7:neko.devNico

That is still matrix-dev, I'd say. matrix-spec is for phase 3: the spec has issues, which should be fixed, imo

23:01:54@grin:grin.hugrin'kay.

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