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Discussion of specific Matrix Spec Change proposals | https://matrix.org/docs/spec/proposals | SCT Board: https://github.com/orgs/matrix-org/projects/31 | Old design drafts: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4wHq8qP86r2ck15MHEwMmlNVUk 59 Servers

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22 Jan 2021
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunomethen it is very, very badly worded ^^"19:06:34
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoCould also be someone spreading bad faith arguments, because there was one issue that got locked, after a commenter started to attack people directly about being slow or so19:07:15
23 Jan 2021
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@erkinalp:matrix.orgErkin Alphttps://people.csail.mit.edu/vinodv/6892-Fall2013/rothblum.pdf any opinion on this? can we use that kind of transformation to add homomorphic public key crypto to matrix, so the server can do ops on the encrypted form of the data, further improving matrix' privacy?10:36:29
@erkinalp:matrix.orgErkin Alp * https://people.csail.mit.edu/vinodv/6892-Fall2013/rothblum.pdf any opinion on this? can we use that kind of transformation to add homomorphic public key crypto to matrix, so the server can do ops on the encrypted form of the data, further improving matrix' privacy?10:36:47
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24 Jan 2021
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25 Jan 2021
@Half-Shot:half-shot.ukHalf-ShotHow do spec items end up in the left hand column on https://github.com/orgs/matrix-org/projects/31?11:22:44
@Half-Shot:half-shot.ukHalf-ShotAs I think there are far more proposals waiting for feedback, but unsure if there is an extra level you need to meet first.11:23:31
@andrewm:amorgan.xyzanoaThey're added as-needed. Feel free to ask in here about adding your proposal and someone can give a sanity pass.11:26:51
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@cognifloyd:matrix.orgcognifloyd (Jacob Floyd)based on https://matrix.org/docs/spec/proposals#id104, it looks like no implementation is needed until something moves from being a "proposal" to a "spec PR" (or about when a proposal hits the final comment period). Is that correct?18:52:50
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoYeah, you can make your proposal first, then have someone implement it18:54:46
@hubert:uhoreg.cauhoregIt depends. MSCs need some "evidence that it works" before FCP. For some MSCs, it's "obvious" that it works, and so an implementation isn't needed, but for anything else, an implementation of some sort is usually the preferred way to show that it works.18:59:10
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26 Jan 2021
@kb1rd:kb1rd.netKB1RDIf an invite-only room is tombstoned, how do users join the new room?03:41:40
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRwith an invite03:41:49
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRthe room upgrade system was intentionally introduced knowing that private (invite only) rooms would be on the losing end03:42:15
@travis:t2l.ioTravisR(fwiw the reasons why you'd upgrade a private room are not super prominent at the moment, so it's largely considered a non-issue for now)03:42:58
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@mscbot:amorgan.xyzmscbot[MSC2366] "MSC2366: Key verification flow additions: m.key.verification.ready and m.key.verification.done" has now entered final comment period!: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/236617:05:41
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