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15 Dec 2021
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft) Psychology has just begun to address what I coined the Social-Memory Issue, the Social Issue (humans) needs to meet the Memory Issue (computers). Is that best labeled Psychology, Csychology, PsychologyC? Psychotechnology? 19:10:37
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)"Social-Memory Issue" I'm coining because Memory is ignored as a Social Issue. (Repeating myself to organize from before.)19:17:37
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)Actually I coined that a few years ago (2015?). Another example of a memory/social issue, is asking "When did I say that?" and being able to prove as fact.19:31:56
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)Err, well, being able to prove, or not being able to prove as evidence. For psychology, especially "talk therapy", that's important. Til now proving these facts has been painful and difficult for the profession.19:33:16
@inphovore:matrix.org@inphovore:matrix.orgThe mind is in some ways plasticine. Both neurologically and inference (memory conditioning.)21:42:02
@inphovore:matrix.org@inphovore:matrix.org You are right, memory may play a powerful role in behavioral patterns 21:42:23
@inphovore:matrix.org@inphovore:matrix.org Even how and what we’re ready to learn 21:42:38
@inphovore:matrix.org@inphovore:matrix.org Overcoming memory/inference/inductive over reliance may be among the pathways to empowering the full (creative/uninhibited) self 21:43:34
@inphovore:matrix.org@inphovore:matrix.org We must all have different mental configuration in this regard. I have a very poor direct memory, yet a reliable associative memory 21:44:20
@inphovore:matrix.org@inphovore:matrix.org Learning these secrets and using them to your advantage (specialized training for example) may become an empowering ability 21:45:41
16 Dec 2021
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)
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The mind is in some ways plasticine. Both neurologically and inference (memory conditioning.)
You mean, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity? Saying "plasticine" makes it sound ~. I appreciate "Memory Conditioning" is apt.
06:04:34
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)
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You are right, memory may play a powerful role in behavioral patterns
I will not claim right or wrong, but if I had an opinion I would rename "Behavioral Psychology" to "Memory Psychology" accross the board. Talking about my body language is not as important as what someone remembers and recalls.
06:06:20
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)
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Even how and what we’re ready to learn
Inphovore = Carninfovore or Herbinfovore?
06:07:50
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)Well, Behavioral Psych in terms of being isolated at a computer terminal... is Memory Psychology. I am tired of some people talking about my sleep patterns when I'm in asyncronous chats 24/7 since age 10.06:09:57
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)If we had to compare/judge my/others behavior in a controlled experiment, seated 24/7/365 staring at a computer with hands on keyboard and not allowed to leave your room (like me since age 10), I am fairly certain a lot of "Behavioral" assessments would look like a shit show of people talking smack about body posture. I think the focus should be on text and writing and speaking, otherwise mods/cops are excused for laughing at variables that are not evidence of behavior, when the focus should be on remembering (and citing verbatim in quotes, to prove actual memory of) who really spoke English first. Suddenly a lot of political and powerful people would not have a leg to stand on if they (and not their speechwriter) had to prove what they said, live.06:18:20
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)Currently in the US at least, it seems the focus is on Memory of Behavior, and not Memory of Language. That makes sense only if we're not able to record and need to pick on people's facial expressions to prove a point. Now that "talk therapy" can be matched with "talk memory", we can start to actually learn who can speak for themself 24/7/365 and not need assistance from a speechwriter.06:21:57
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)Again, I am not talking about physical interactions (I am nearly 99% celibate and avoid meatspace), I am talking about people living at a computer terminal typing English for every interaction.06:24:50
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)Well, Alphabet/English/Writing/Coding, the point is electonically recorded Input, is not about Behavior, it's about Memory.06:30:45
@mistake:matrix.orgprosody Vereable Context (Gabriel Gaston Croft)
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We must all have different mental configuration in this regard. I have a very poor direct memory, yet a reliable associative memory
"Normal" people's memory you mean? I think that's how law enforcement describes Witness Statements, you're the normal memory. That's why forcing Psychology to address Provable Memory/Evidence specifically is a missing science ingredient. A lot of "genius" memories would look like "normal" memories if they had to prove/type 24/7/365, and save their entire Search History at the same time as logged-in like I do, suddenly even "genius" memories would look like "normal" memory.
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