| 5 Apr 2020 |
| 18:36:14 |  pulsar | did some scala in the big data ecosystem (spark mainly). cant say i did not enjoy it, but i dont see where scala is going. i am guessing nowhere. |
| 18:36:20 | ![@freenode_rom1dep[x]:matrix.org](./avatar/rom1dep%5Bx%5D) rom1dep[x] | I think that eventually java will be good enough at being a better java |
| 18:37:34 | pulsar | not sure. golang and rust are catching up quite quickly. |
| 18:38:03 | rom1dep[x] | Scala is reinventing itself with an even stronger typesystem as dotty/scala 3, which is very neat. Scala feels boring these days because we lack of nothing (bunch of excellent libs for everything) |
| 18:38:19 | rom1dep[x] | Golang is irrelevant IMO |
| 18:38:12 | pulsar | i honestly cant predict what will happen to java in the next few years, and i have been doing that for living for almost 20 years. |
| 18:38:39 | rom1dep[x] | Thanks to Graal, mainly |
| 18:39:03 | pulsar | sounds like fanboy talk :) |
| 18:39:13 | rom1dep[x] | Rust is a totally different breast, I wouldn't want the cognitive load of it for what's Java/Go/python is good at |
| 18:40:12 |  mightypork | Fixed my issue with empty artist bios. Finally making use of that Java I learnt from modding Minecraft ;) https://github.com/airsonic/airsonic/issues/1605 |
| 18:40:20 | pulsar | 🤷 |
| 18:40:46 | pulsar | used it a couple of times for low latency, high throughput applications - it was great for that. |
| 18:40:58 | rom1dep[x] | Well, where I see golang strong is on the "let's make a service that processes some data and call an API, and distribute it as blob" area, where any jar+nativeimage would fit the bill |
| 18:42:51 | rom1dep[x] | pulsar: I think it's no coincidence if oracle is investing so much in this specific niche now and never has before |
| 18:43:55 | pulsar | and on the other hand they screw ppl over by chaning the licensing for java at their will. |
| 18:44:27 | rom1dep[x] | scala also has scala-native, which compiles to LLVM, so there is potential there too |
| 18:44:43 | rom1dep[x] | they can't really change the licensing of openjdk |
| 18:45:40 | pulsar | not talking about openjdk, sure. everybody is moving to adoptopenjdk to dodge the licensing bill |
| 18:46:03 | pulsar | even microsoft / azure provides their own builds |
| 18:48:56 | rom1dep[x] | other than for historical acquaintance with downloading from oracle, this situation is much more sound and makes a ton of sense, you get to pick your vendor and deal with it for (commercial) support. If oracle is better than the competition, they'll have people footing the bill for them. I prefer that than them enjoying a complete monopoly |
| 19:55:00 |  Biv | ew gross virtual machine based languages |
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| 19:57:18 |  themchn | Anyone use the "Share" functionality with the dsub android app? I've recently discovered the app generates invalid links for public sharing. |
| 20:01:35 | themchn | The shares are created and I can log into the web interface to get the proper public link but was hoping maybe someone had a workaround for getting it to work via dsub directly. |
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