| 18 Apr 2024 |
 enigma9o7 | Or test in a VM, etc. | 20:42:01 |
| enigma9o7 | Plasma is meant to be pretty customizable, and gnome not so much, so probably if you wanna try something else Xfce is another popular option that is highly customizable. | 20:42:40 |
| enigma9o7 | Most of the niche desktops are somewhat customizable too... | 20:43:01 |
| enigma9o7 | I'm not sure what a global theme is tho in particular, but if you're using kde guis to change things, weird you can't undo it using kde guis, shouldn't have to mess with the files manually in such cases unless there's perhaps some bug. | 20:43:38 |
|  Brayd changed their profile picture. | 21:21:16 |
 airwaves | how do I propose a change to the .desktop file of an app? | 22:57:33 |
 maryjane | In reply to @freshgum_bubbles:mozilla.org
how do I propose a change to the .desktop file of an app? for what is the change needed? | 22:58:08 |
| airwaves | I may be doing this The Wrong Way(tm), but I've found that adding MimeType=inode/directory to puddletag's .desktop lets it open folders (so it shows up in the "Open folder with" list). it can open folders, as seen below:
~> puddletag --help
puddletag Version: 2.2.0
Usage: puddletag [options] [directory path]
Options:
-h, --help show this help message and exit
--langfile=LANGFILE Path to a translation (.qm) file.
--fontsize=FONTSIZE Default fontsize to use (in points).
-d, --debug Show (useless) debug messages.
-v, --version Show version info and exit.
| 22:58:30 |
| airwaves | so...
+ MimeType=inode/directory
Exec=puddletag %F
:) | 22:58:44 |
| airwaves | (sorry, having to open puddletag and crawl through the folder tree every time I need it was annoying me :P) | 22:59:12 |
| airwaves | * (sorry, having to open puddletag and crawl through the folder tree every time I need it was really annoying me :P) | 22:59:23 |
| maryjane | I would usually say in upstream. | 22:59:49 |
| airwaves | ahh, so you guys just pull in the .desktop files upstream gives you? got it | 23:00:02 |
 Reiner | no, we use the .desktop files shipped in the packages. but if you submit the change upstream it will eventually land in the downstream packages (also in other distros) | 23:01:38 |
| airwaves | done https://github.com/puddletag/puddletag/pull/896 | 23:02:47 |
| airwaves | surprised nobody caught onto that one sooner -- surprisingly annoying! hope that one helps them, anyway :D | 23:03:08 |
| airwaves | sorry, while we're here: is there a way to "fork" .desktops? I'd like to make a few tweaks to Supersonic's .desktop while I'm at it -- currently I've just added (Tweaked) onto the end of my .desktop (which is in ~/.local/share/applications). is that The Right Way? | 23:04:41 |
| airwaves | not sure what the inheritance structure is for .desktops in general: e.g. if one's found in the user's local directory by, say, KDE, would it override the one with the same name in the distro folder (which I'm making a point of not editing) | 23:05:14 |
| maryjane | In reply to @freshgum_bubbles:mozilla.org
sorry, while we're here: is there a way to "fork" .desktops? I'd like to make a few tweaks to Supersonic's .desktop while I'm at it -- currently I've just added (Tweaked) onto the end of my .desktop (which is in ~/.local/share/applications). is that The Right Way? yes. because changes to /usr/share/applications/*.desktop would be overriden with the next package update | 23:07:35 |
| airwaves | yeah that's why I'm not editing that one | 23:07:51 |
| airwaves | was just wondering if there was a standard way to override distro files, not a .desktop expert :D | 23:08:10 |
| Reiner | i think you can place copies somewhere in your home directory | 23:14:19 |
| Reiner | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/desktop_entries
These files usually reside in /usr/share/applications/ or /usr/local/share/applications/ for applications installed system-wide, or ~/.local/share/applications/ for user-specific applications. User entries take precedence over system entries.
| 23:15:01 |
| airwaves |
User entries take precedence over system entries.
oh sick, that's exactly what I was hoping for. thank you for the investigative work :D | 23:23:51 |
| 19 Apr 2024 |
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 drizzw | ah ok | 10:28:00 |
| drizzw | In reply to @enigma9o7:envs.net
Perhaps start using timeshift or something similar to take snapshots so you can experiment without breaking things. actually i am doing all these things, i am not testing on my main machines, i am testing on vms and test machines (to see how things react differently) and i been experomenting with all 3 u mention, gnome, kde and xfce.. gnome is my main de on my regular machines... i been playing a lot with xfce, geting it quite nice but not close enough that i want to replace it... everyones always screaming about how great kde, and hence why i am trying ot make it work. | 10:30:21 |
| drizzw | also was able to customie cinnamon quite a bit but tthat too feels a bit limited.... with regards to xfce, i found trying to resize icons on the panels quite annoying, u cant quite get them all the same times, if u set it to auto resizee, some of the icons like the volume and battery always seem so much bigger than the rest no matter what i do.. i know you can do some things with css with them but not sure if u can do it on a per icon basis | 10:32:38 |
