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20 Jul 2024
@gokuldas:matrix.orggoku12https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/kerala/ubuntu-saves-kerala-government-during-microsoft-outage-1.974183105:29:07
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@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V⸙ꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋ (Telegram)
In reply to @gokuldas:matrix.org

I was discussing this in a group as soon as the news came out. Even if a similar rollout had affected Linux, the fact that there are different distributions would prevent a total collapse. Each distribution would push the change at different times (Debian even has a testing phase). So the most leading edge distribution would face the problem and report it - early enough for others to respond.

The previous case of xz backdoor is also interesting in this regard. The backdoor, while serious, didn't affect many distributions.

This is an antivirus(malware) marketed to corporate customers only. Wont get put into consumer sustems.

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/technical-details-on-todays-outage/

"Systems running Linux or macOS do not use Channel File 291 and were not impacted."

This shit runs on unix like OSs also
07:38:07
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V⸙ꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋ (Telegram)
In reply to @bady:poddery.com
yes, but it's more than just microsoft vs linux. the corporate culture is to pay someone so that they can blame them when something goes wrong. this is different from community culture of collective ownership.
Imo this is more about the unlimited trust on security companies to not fuck up. This software can run on linux also.
07:40:32
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V⸙ꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋ (Telegram)More of a throwback to the active scanning of media and chat being pushed by govt.07:41:32
@kskarthik:poddery.comKarthik (కార్తీక్)
In reply to @telegram_293342249:tchncs.de
This is an antivirus(malware) marketed to corporate customers only. Wont get put into consumer sustems.

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/technical-details-on-todays-outage/

"Systems running Linux or macOS do not use Channel File 291 and were not impacted."

This shit runs on unix like OSs also
The company name was apt for this incident. yeah it's a heavy strike 😄
10:45:52
@gokuldas:matrix.orggoku12 I wonder what Microsoft is doing right now. Must be busy putting up a team to create an update to bork Linux and Mac too. They're losing customers otherwise. After all, their pet Poettering has introduced BSOD in linux as well (systemd-bsod) - must use that somewhere! 11:18:48
@kskarthik:poddery.comKarthik (కార్తీక్)
In reply to @gokuldas:matrix.org
I wonder what Microsoft is doing right now. Must be busy putting up a team to create an update to bork Linux and Mac too. They're losing customers otherwise. After all, their pet Poettering has introduced BSOD in linux as well (systemd-bsod) - must use that somewhere!
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd-bsod.service.html
12:14:20
@kskarthik:poddery.comKarthik (కార్తీక్)I did not see it shipped in opensuse tumbleweed as of today12:18:49
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In reply to @kskarthik:poddery.com
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd-bsod.service.html
What problem does this solve?
13:36:20
@gokuldas:matrix.orggoku12
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What problem does this solve?
Enables Linux to crash like windows. Bleed blue!
13:47:23
@telegram_187300612:tchncs.deAthul (Telegram)
In reply to @gokuldas:matrix.org
Enables Linux to crash like windows. Bleed blue!
ewww
14:05:03
@telegram_187300612:tchncs.deAthul (Telegram)
In reply to Tanzeem M B (Telegram)
Which is the best open source alternative to MS PowerBI? Apache Superset?
https://www.knime.com/knime-analytics-platform
14:16:13
@gokuldas:matrix.orggoku12
In reply to @telegram_293342249:tchncs.de
Imo this is more about the unlimited trust on security companies to not fuck up. This software can run on linux also.

"If you're wondering why windows is the only os affected, it's because windows is the only os that's insecure enough to have problems like this. Windows is a pile of hacks on top of each other that it has resulted in a less than ideal system environment for safety."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL-apm0dCSs

16:40:59
@libperry:tchncs.delibperryhttps://github.com/theoisdumb/funkwest16:58:00
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In reply to @gokuldas:matrix.org

"If you're wondering why windows is the only os affected, it's because windows is the only os that's insecure enough to have problems like this. Windows is a pile of hacks on top of each other that it has resulted in a less than ideal system environment for safety."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL-apm0dCSs

This high level of control in Kernel space for security software is the same philosophy with LSM also afaik. What's the chances of a bad selinux policy causing some software to crash ur system.
17:10:56
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V⸙ꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋ (Telegram)Imo crowdstrike sold snakeoil and the whole world came up with rashes.17:11:37
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V⸙ꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋ (Telegram) Forwarded message from Hacker News
CrowdStrike broke Debian and Rocky Linux months ago, but no one noticed
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19:02:26
21 Jul 2024
@gokuldas:matrix.orggoku12
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CrowdStrike broke Debian and Rocky Linux months ago, but no one noticed
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That video talks about the difference in depth and privileges of falcon on Linux and Mac compared to on Windows.
04:33:19
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In reply to @gokuldas:matrix.org
That video talks about the difference in depth and privileges of falcon on Linux and Mac compared to on Windows.
Which one 🧐
08:22:22
@peacerebel:poddery.compeacerebelHey folks, is there any good application for presentation similar impress + impress remote but one that works with PDFs( build from latex)?08:49:13
@peacerebel:poddery.compeacerebelConverting PDF to odp or ppt didn't go well.08:49:51
@telegram_187300612:tchncs.deAthul (Telegram)
In reply to @peacerebel:poddery.com
Hey folks, is there any good application for presentation similar impress + impress remote but one that works with PDFs( build from latex)?
why don't presenting pdf as it is
08:52:14
@telegram_187300612:tchncs.deAthul (Telegram)* why don't you present pdf as it is08:52:25
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V⸙ꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋꠋ (Telegram)Do you need to edit?09:03:57
24 Jul 2024
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