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4 Mar 2024
@_bifrost_singpolyma=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgsingpolymaBut there are a few other chat SDKs in the market that seem to be doing ok, so there's some chance we can get more than zero devs interested that way too02:16:10
@_bifrost_moparisthebest=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgmoparisthebest> I would love to see a semi-unified experience across web, Android, iOS, and whatever you want to call desktop and mobile Linux, even if I might still use, say, Cheogram on Android. Knowing I can point friends and family to "Snikket" and have it available everywhere they are with the same functionality and basic look... Phew! yyyyyyyyeeeeeeessssssssss02:58:52
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the GreatI would love to see a semi-unified experience across web, Android, iOS, and whatever you want to call desktop and mobile Linux, even if I might still use, say, Cheogram on Android. Knowing I can point friends and family to "Snikket" and have it available everywhere they are with the same functionality and basic look... Phew!02:58:53
@_bifrost_moparisthebest=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgmoparisthebestthough to be fair, normal people only use android and iOS so that's already there right ?02:59:08
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the GreatWell, I have at least one friend who has been very used to having their texting on their phone and in a browser like I was (he's still on Google Fi). I did finally get him onto my Snikket instance and he actually currently uses Snikket on his phone, but last he tried Movim it didn't work for him for some reason. I will probably try to get him moved over to Cheogram Android the next time I see him in person, and I'll see if I can figure out why he couldn't log into Movim.03:04:54
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the GreatI think that would feel very natural.03:04:55
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the GreatIt would be great if there was a web client available right at my Snikket domain when a user logs into their account ;-).03:04:55
@_bifrost_moparisthebest=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgmoparisthebestyou can set up converse.js yourself there pretty easily, if that'll suit your needs03:07:39
@_bifrost_johnxian=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgjohnxianDoes converse.js support voice???03:11:39
@_bifrost_moparisthebest=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgmoparisthebestno03:14:12
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the Greatmoparisthebest: Well, I have a hosted instance currently so I'm "at the mercy" of what that offers.03:19:32
@_bifrost_b2881faa-129e-451f-b999-6d568f888860=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgb2881faa-129e-451f-b999-6d568f888860 joined the room.03:22:30
@_bifrost_moparisthebest=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgmoparisthebestGnafu the Great, does it expose websocket or bosh ?03:30:08
@_bifrost_singpolyma=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgsingpolymayes03:32:24
@_bifrost_singpolyma=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgsingpolymawebsocket at least03:32:27
@_bifrost_moparisthebest=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgmoparisthebestthen it's trivial to host your own converse.js anywhere or actually use public ones if you want03:33:05
@_bifrost_moparisthebest=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgmoparisthebestGnafu the Great, https://conversejs.org/fullscreen.html should work03:33:44
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@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the Greatmoparisthebest: My point is that I'd like for someone to be able to go to [my Snikket domain] in a browser, sign into the existing login screen, and chat from there. For onboarding new users who don't care about native apps or anything, they could sign up and start chatting all from the same invite and web interface.03:38:37
@_bifrost_moparisthebest=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgmoparisthebestsure, converse.js would be trivial there too but obviously you'd need to modify your snikket, though not much03:39:20
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the GreatI don't know if that's something that MattJ explicitly has in mind, but I would love it.03:39:21
@_bifrost_caleb=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgcalebGnafu the Great: i think that's a plan once there is a web client for Snikket.03:39:24
@_bifrost_moparisthebest=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgmoparisthebestiirc nothing is going to be official for snikket until it supports calling which is probably the holdup03:39:48
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the Greatcaleb: Yeah, I think that's been talked about. I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but it seems like a reasonable goal.03:39:56
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the Greatmoparisthebest: Calling works in the SDK client if I recall correctly ;-).03:40:17
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the GreatAnyway, I'm excited about anything new that promotes further adopted of XMPP :-).03:41:06
@_bifrost_caleb=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgcalebI don't know why the demo doesn't work for me.03:41:09
@_bifrost_Gnafu=20the=20Great=2fdiscuss=40conference.soprani.ca:aria-net.orgGnafu the Great * Anyway, I'm excited about anything new that promotes further adoption of XMPP :-).03:41:16
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