| 22 Mar 2025 |
 caleb | OMG, when?! | 01:44:53 |
 moparisthebest | We've been using it for years, wait, no one told you? | 01:44:59 |
| * caleb hooks a telegraph key up to his computer. | 01:45:32 |
| caleb | Now I really want to do telegraphy over XMPP. | 01:51:42 |
 silverwizard | pulse dialing doesn't work over JMP sadly | 01:59:09 |
| silverwizard | I tried last night | 01:59:14 |
| caleb | > pulse dialing doesn't work over JMP sadly
This sounds like something the client should handle. | 02:00:27 |
| silverwizard | sure, I could probably write a SIP client that parses pulse tones, but my buttset was easier to connect to an ATA | 02:02:17 |
| caleb | silverwizard, what I'm getting at is that my ATA handles pulse dialing. No need for JMP to handle it. | 02:03:51 |
| silverwizard | wait yours does, damn | 02:05:37 |
| caleb | Grandstream HT802. Haven't tested it. I use a push-button phone, because phone menus need tones. | 02:06:16 |
| caleb | How do I delete all the browser saved data for app.cheogram.com? | 03:03:48 |
 Mike | Depends on your browser | 03:06:04 |
| caleb | Mozilla. | 03:06:23 |
| moparisthebest | Not if you put your hard drive in a blender | 03:06:28 |
| Mike | But probably just click on the lock icon and hit clear site data or something | 03:06:32 |
| moparisthebest | That works for any browser | 03:06:40 |
| Mike | > Not if you put your hard drive in a blender
But will it BLEND? | 03:06:48 |
| caleb | In a Vitamix. | 03:07:56 |
| Mike | Vitamix 5200 64oz. God's intended blender. | 03:08:33 |
| moparisthebest | Send video | 03:08:36 |
| Mike | Whatever happened to drive in restaurants | 03:09:17 |
 John. | > Thanks! I'll try that out. Any SIP clients you particularly like?
Linphone has been mentioned as being the prototypical example; it has many bells and whistles and is a flagship product of its developer. However, GNOME Calls deserves a shout-out, and to a lesser extent GNU Jami. GNOME Calls is commonly a staple of mobile GNU/Linux distributions like Mobian. In addition to supporting SIP it's probably the easiest way to use ModemManager to hook into a genuine cellular modem in a device. | 03:24:22 |
| John. | Actually this can probably be a lot easier than you think. I have a USB audio device with an RJ11 port to interface telephone handsets with computers (maybe the name "Magic Jack" rings a bell...) and it simply exposes a phone handset as a microphone/speaker pair. It's true that button presses will be sent over the wire as tones just like in the ordinary phone network, but there's at least one program I saw in Debian in passing that can parse the tones. From there it would probably be easy to have a daemon listening for phone key presses and which then converts it into a tel , xmpp , or sip URI for the number.
I bet someone has done this already—making a fake Linux input device that turns DTMF tones into key presses would be am elegant and straightforward solution. I haven't gotten around to this yet but it's on my roadmap. My mother has a rotary phone that belonged to my great grandmother I'd like to get up and running with JMP.chat | 03:32:07 |
 helloagain | > Morse code over cheogram
😂 | 04:00:00 |
 johnxian | > maybe the name "Magic Jack" rings a bell...
Goodness gracious. I haven't heard that name since I was a kid watching late-night terrestrial television. | 04:00:03 |
| johnxian | John., someone did make a mobile rotary phone. https://skysedge.com/telecom/RUSP/index.html | 04:07:28 |
 wreck | oldphoneworks.com has pulse to dtmf converters to be installed in rotary phones, costs about $80 | 04:17:14 |
| caleb | app.cheogram.com: Function 'fetchLatestChanges' disabled in Abrowser due privacy concerns. | 06:07:44 |
 wilco | Those are both amazing websites! Too bad the sky's edge ones are sold out :'( | 06:07:57 |
