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| @jack09877890:matrix.org | why do trans people control every room that is suppose to cater to Neurodiversity lol
What is all the deleted messages and such all the time? what a joke lol. | 15:05:25 |
| @jack09877890:matrix.org | In reply to @jez:petrichor.me
This is a pretty good summary of the issues https://autistictic.com/2020/08/10/autism-self-diagnosis-yay-or-nay/ That is like suggesting that people can just diagnose all their own health problems perfectly without a doctor or psychiatrist lol.
No it doesn't work. You also get people that want to be autistic for the attention and then genuinely autistic people who never want
anyone else to know that they are autistic.
Then you have people with very debilitating autism and others who are so high functioning that it is debatable on whether or not they are even on the spectrum. | 15:13:41 |
| @jack09877890:matrix.org | With the previous mentions of Hans Asperger. Judging by the very sensitive disposition of this room I highly doubt that any of you actually know what he
said about autism. You guys would definitely NOT like it lol. He didn't outright hate autists, but he definitely saw it as a major disability in the majority of cases.
I mean it is still considered a disability today and it is, but obviously many people disagree with that.
One of his early publications was called "autistic psychopathy in childhood". | 15:42:16 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | i mean he was a nazi right | 23:28:41 |
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| @huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org | In reply to @corbenic:matrix.org
i mean he was a nazi right He was alive when Hitler was and existed in Austria......... lol
calling him a nazi is like calling a person that shakes hands with a child a pedophile lol. | 11:36:49 |
| 17 Aug 2021 |
 moved to ijyx:cat.casa | The "Was asperger a nazi" discussion always ends in a discussion about semantics tbh.
Fact is that there's at least two children we know of who were referred to Spiegelgrund by him.
Whether or not that makes him a nazi, i dont know, but it definitely doesnt make him a good person | 15:46:42 |
 Jez (he/him) | It's also not a very useful argument to have since he died over 40 years ago and understanding of autism has moved on a lot since then | 21:16:22 |
| Jez (he/him) | If you finally got some closure on whether or not he was a nazi, what would that information enable you to do | 21:18:01 |
| Jez (he/him) | * If you finally got some closure on whether or not he was a nazi, what would that information enable you to do? | 21:18:10 |
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| @the-power-of-dreams:matrix.org | Hello, world! | 21:58:59 |
| 19 Aug 2021 |
| @huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org | In reply to @ijyx:matrix.org
The "Was asperger a nazi" discussion always ends in a discussion about semantics tbh.
Fact is that there's at least two children we know of who were referred to Spiegelgrund by him.
Whether or not that makes him a nazi, i dont know, but it definitely doesnt make him a good person There are no semantics or any confusing details of any sort. Hans Asperger definitely sent more than two very low functioning children to the "Am Spiegelgrund" children's ward that was presented to medical practitioners as a psychiatric institute for children. He and others had no idea that it had become a Euthanasia clinic for the severely disabled and children of political dissidents.
Children and adults today are still presented to psychiatric clinics when the problem is so severe that it needs immediate attention. So if anything, this makes Hans Asperger a good person by modern standards. | 12:00:22 |
| @huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org | In reply to @jez:petrichor.me
It's also not a very useful argument to have since he died over 40 years ago and understanding of autism has moved on a lot since then True, obviously the History is still very important though. | 12:02:14 |
| @huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org |
If you finally got some closure on whether or not he was a nazi, what would that information enable you to do?
It would enable you re-write the whole history of the universe as a black and white Nazis vs non-nazis paradigm in order to further your own political agenda and infinite victimhood whilst conveniently hiding everything evil done by anyone else.
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| 20 Aug 2021 |
| @huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org | *
If you finally got some closure on whether or not he was a nazi, what would that information enable you to do?
It would enable you to re-write the whole history of the universe as a black and white Nazis vs non-nazis paradigm in order to further your own political agenda and infinite victimhood whilst conveniently hiding everything evil done by anyone else.
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| 21 Aug 2021 |
| @huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org | As for actual modern developments on understanding ASD. Very little has actually changed in the last 50 years. I think people are confusing the social acceptance of autistic people with
the clinical and scientific understanding of autistic people.
Recent changes include -
- More people being diagnosed because of the greater availability of testing. ( Also very high functioning Autism is now considered autism rather than normal character traits. )
- Asperger's as a category of autism has been removed ( There is no good reason for that, too many reasons to list, basically just DSM politics and power flexing. )
- Beautiful studies that combine brain scans / mental aptitude tests and life history together to see how brain development differs between high functioning ASD / low functioning ASD / neurotypicals .
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| @corbenic:matrix.org | i heard there was a recent study that autistic people communicate with each other as well as nt people do | 05:39:45 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | i only recently started thinking i was part of this but i notice i like autistic type people more | 05:40:40 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | there's a neighbor who's an autistic furry author, i give him rides to work sometimes when i see him, he keeps describing things that apply to me | 05:43:45 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | he wanted me to go to some furry meetup in some guy's garage | 05:44:07 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | no thank you. | 05:44:12 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | i was like, are there hot chicks? and he was very like... unclear | 05:45:08 |
| @huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org | The only possible scenario for that being true is very high functioning ASD people communicating via text online compared to the average person.
If you have zero communication issues with other people the chances of you being on the ASD spectrum are very low.... | 05:45:28 |
