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17 Apr 2024 | ||
Oswaldo | In reply to David Croisant 🏴Yes | 20:09:13 |
19 Apr 2024 | ||
Steve Clancy | Hi all, sharing this with Atlas Island members, as our New Nation Project is currently pursuing a combined seasteading and charter cities proposal in the South Pacific. This gives some background to our proposals, and the reason for the message at this time is that we're calling for nominations for people to support us as virtual citizens and vote in our upcoming elections. https://www.newnationproject.org/2023-nov-update | 11:30:19 |
Steve Clancy | short answer is not while there's a war on. The post is about a sovereign lease | 12:11:52 |
DCAHorse | The whole Bir Tawil situation won't work just so you know | 12:13:01 |
DCAHorse | I saw it's talking about leasing an island | 12:12:30 |
DCAHorse | In reply to Steve ClancyAre you really trying to live in Bir Tawil? | 12:10:07 |
DCAHorse | If you want to be an independent country you need an industry to get people there and then try to become self sufficient. After you are more self sufficient then you can think of being independent. | 12:30:10 |
DCAHorse | The Satoshi Island idea seems more reasonable. I'm a crypto hater but it's more likely to work. | 12:28:35 |
Joseph | Yeah, Bir Tawil no chance. Ever. Islands: My best guess https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astove_Atoll Seychelles could be an OK country to have discussions with. Also: Satoshi Island is quite advanced now, check it out: https://www.satoshi-island.com/ First living modules did arrive to island, people moving prob. starts end of 2024. My critique here: Way more info needed on homepage and way more cooperation needed with entities like Tipolis, Charter Cities Institit, Free Cities Foundation, etc. Below 50mil USD we do not even have a chance of discussing those topics. | 12:21:10 |
Joseph | From an agorist perspective: Cool, keep doing it. Better than nothing From a political/realistic perspective: Yall still pay taxes and have to register your cars, bring kids to public school, jury duty, surveillance state NSA etc. Staying in the US limits freedom a lot. If staying is a must: move to NH. Its a shame that <10k people moved there in a 330mil country with at least a few million libertarians. Americans aren't that daring these days.... | 13:46:09 |
Chris Troutner | This area is a popular sailing destination. It'll be interesting to see if we can branch out to other island and the sailing community. | 13:35:38 |
Chris Troutner | Wow, that was cool to watch the videos of Satoshi Island. I hadn't heard of that project. There are a lot of good ideas floating around that re-think how communities can interact. I live on an island in Washington state in the USA. I've been talking with other residents to setup a club house and use it to start a 'barter club'. A headquarters we can use to trade produce and services with one another. We plan to use Goldbacks, silver coins, gold coins, and crypto to conduct trade. By conciously rejecting the use of US dollars and adding friction to move into it, we're encouraging our local currency to circulate on the island. | 13:34:56 |
DCAHorse | I think Florida would be better | 13:48:33 |
DCAHorse | Florida is implementing policies to attract more conservatives and kicking out parasites | 13:50:37 |
DCAHorse | Plus there is already industry and jobs for people there | 13:57:02 |
Joseph | Florida in the beginninf because of infrastructure, but you have to leave before the project gets to big. | 13:54:08 |
DCAHorse | It'll be a feedback loop after awhile | 13:50:58 |
DCAHorse | I think libertarians and conservatives should focus on heading to Florida and from there it's easier to launch | 13:56:38 |
Joseph | If i want to be conservative, i go to Wyoming or Oklahoma. But i am talking bout dismanteling the state, libertarian type stuff. Bahamas i agree | 13:53:24 |
Joseph | For seasteading folk yes. But not everybody can do this lifestyle because of age or small kids. For others i would still say NH because impact per capita is huge. | 13:59:06 |
DCAHorse | There are more jobs and industry in Florida than in nh | 14:01:31 |
DCAHorse | Plus Florida has the cruise ship industry, near the Bahamas, and has a sailing culture | 13:51:46 |
DCAHorse | I've heard | 14:16:29 |
Joseph | Or Canadians! 😂 Dude Canada has turned into a shithole quickly... | 14:15:56 |
Joseph | And 15 times more NPCs that will make sure that your liberty project fails. | 14:14:16 |
DCAHorse | Well that's going to be a problem anywhere. NH can be invaded by NYC refugees | 14:15:01 |
i3utm | In reply to JosephToo cold. Need temps in the 30's most of the year. 😊☀️ | 15:41:24 |
AndrewP | In reply to JosephHaha. Had to look up that NPC thing. So apparently Gen Z like a bit of independent thinking. Perhaps there is hope for the world after all... 😄 | 20:26:39 |
Steve Clancy | In reply to JosephHappy to accept volunteers to make the page look better, and donations of course. | 22:39:55 |
DCAHorse | https://suno.com/song/781f0369-505c-4972-9d5a-7dceb93e56e8 | 23:48:26 |