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1 Dec 2022
@telegram_284581830:t2bot.ioDavid FreemanDoes anyone know the Matrix links for Atlas Island and Seasteading rooms?21:44:14
@telegram_284581830:t2bot.ioDavid FreemanOkay, found the link for Atlas Island.21:46:08
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@davidfreeman:matrix.lrn.fmDavid FreemanYeah 21:48:40
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2 Dec 2022
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@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz
In reply to David Freeman
I'm more up towards central east Florida with 2 floating homes that I live on: a 26ft S/V in West Palm Beach and a 31ft S/V in Fort Pierce.
How much is the ongoing cost for your floating homes in regards to taxes or other fees?
03:18:15
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz* How much do you think would be ongoing cost for your floating homes in regards to taxes or other fees?03:41:07
@telegram_284581830:t2bot.ioDavid FreemanI have my boats registered in another state. Registration is good for 3 years costing only $15 for the 26ft boat and $51 for the 31ft boat. Property tax is almost nothing. Of course registration and property taxes in Florida will probably cost more. The crazy thing about Florida is that boat insurance isn't required here. Basic liability on a boat is only around $100 per year. The boats require some maintenance which you can do yourself such as scraping the bottom. You can live on anchor for free. Very low cost of living.03:58:21
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz
In reply to David Freeman
I have my boats registered in another state. Registration is good for 3 years costing only $15 for the 26ft boat and $51 for the 31ft boat. Property tax is almost nothing. Of course registration and property taxes in Florida will probably cost more. The crazy thing about Florida is that boat insurance isn't required here. Basic liability on a boat is only around $100 per year. The boats require some maintenance which you can do yourself such as scraping the bottom. You can live on anchor for free. Very low cost of living.
Thanks David for sharing this information. Have you seen floating structure as the one at this website? If no, do you think this type of floating vessel will be allowed in USA? https://lotb.ca/
16:44:51
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz * Thanks David for sharing this information. Have you seen floating structures as the one at this website? If no, do you think this type of floating vessel will be allowed in USA? https://lotb.ca/ 16:45:27
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz * Thanks David for sharing this information. Have you seen floating vessel structures as the one at this website? If no, do you think this type of floating vessel will be allowed in USA? https://lotb.ca/ 16:46:04
@telegram_284581830:t2bot.ioDavid FreemanNot sure about the rest of the US, but Florida allows a lot of freedom when it comes to floating structures. Yes, I've seen structures similar to those. I don't even think you have to register it if there's no motor on it.17:15:03
@_discord_1009129896557162658:t2bot.ioBen Silone The downside to Florida is it gets hits by hurricanes. I was originally hoping to do something in Tampa Bay, but there are more restrictions there. 20:26:46
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz
In reply to @_discord_1009129896557162658:t2bot.io
The downside to Florida is it gets hits by hurricanes. I was originally hoping to do something in Tampa Bay, but there are more restrictions there.
I hear you. If it’s not hurricanes then there are wild fires or floods or landslides or earthquakes or tyrannical governments or mob ruled democracies. The challenge is to adapt to such realities and move on. I feel a shipping container based vessel with Jackup Spud should do the trick as mentioned in the website that I shared earlier. Anyway, thanks for sharing information :)
21:12:24
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz* I hear you. If not hurricanes then there are wild fires or floods or landslides or earthquakes or tyrannical governments or mob ruled democracies. The challenge is to adapt to such realities and move on. I feel a shipping container based vessel with Jackup Spud should do the trick as mentioned in the website that I shared earlier. Anyway, thanks for sharing information :)21:12:36
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz* I hear you. If not hurricanes then there are wild fires or floods or landslides or earthquakes or tyrannical governments or mob ruled democracies. The challenge is to adapt/avoid such realities and move on. I feel a shipping container based vessel with Jackup Spud should do the trick as mentioned in the website that I shared earlier. Anyway, thanks for sharing information :)21:36:03
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz* I hear you. If not hurricanes then there are wild fires or floods or landslides or earthquakes or tyrannical governments or mob ruled democracies. The challenge is to adapt/avoid such realities and move on. I feel a shipping container based vessel with Jackup Spud should do the trick. Anyway, thanks for sharing information :)21:37:15
@_discord_544072070879772672:t2bot.ioDaniel E. Twedt joined the room.21:40:03
@telegram_284581830:t2bot.ioDavid FreemanDangerous freedom or safe slavery? Which do you prefer? I rode out 2 hurricanes this year in my floating homes: Hurricane Ian and Hurricane Nicole. It wasn't fun. Freedom can be dangerous. Living in a dangerous environment may be the only option you have if you want real freedom. If you go out in the middle of the ocean, there is a lot of freedom to be had, but it's dangerous AF out there. There are islands out in the middle of the ocean you can go to, and government will never bother you. But again, it can be dangerous if a hurricane decides to visit. Plus, you must be very self-sufficient to survive.22:02:54
3 Dec 2022
@telegram_1466134731:t2bot.ioSparky Brolife is not safe.. not one of us gets to keep it forever, just have to decide how you will live it.00:25:27
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz* I hear you. If not hurricanes then there are wild fires or floods or landslides or earthquakes or tyrannical governments or mob ruled democracies. The challenge is to adapt/avoid such realities and move on. I feel a shipping container based vessel with Jackup Spud should do the trick for my plan (that's the hope :)). Anyway, thanks for sharing information. Truly appreciate it :).02:25:34
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz
In reply to David Freeman
Dangerous freedom or safe slavery? Which do you prefer? I rode out 2 hurricanes this year in my floating homes: Hurricane Ian and Hurricane Nicole. It wasn't fun. Freedom can be dangerous. Living in a dangerous environment may be the only option you have if you want real freedom. If you go out in the middle of the ocean, there is a lot of freedom to be had, but it's dangerous AF out there. There are islands out in the middle of the ocean you can go to, and government will never bother you. But again, it can be dangerous if a hurricane decides to visit. Plus, you must be very self-sufficient to survive.
David, I am not sure what do you mean by safe slavery but I opt for freedom anytime over any form of slavery. I would never live in a glorified zoo. It's freedom or death for me. Simple as that. I understand the perils of acts of nature on human kind. You have my sympathies and I always hope for the best for everyone's life, liberty and property. Having said that, if you decide to live in a boat, I presume hurricanes come part of the package. Similarly for those that work in a mine or a submarine. There is always a chance of not coming back on surface and such people who willing opt for that line of work very well know about the risks and challenges that are ahead of them. I know words can easy to quote than in reality but I cannot say much about alligators if I am living in a swamp. I was referring to my plan for future if I were to live on a floating vessel in a marina or the sea when talking to Ben Silone. We all as individuals are owners of our destiny and views on life. Also I am not sure if you have read the vision and mission of Atlas Island and this related telegram group. Our final goal is to live middle of the sea in a phased and rational manner. I would also suggest to refer to "Demolition Man" movie and "Game of Thrones" original series that refer to free folk in their plot. You will then see where I am coming from :). Cheers.
02:31:55
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz
In reply to Sparky Bro
life is not safe.. not one of us gets to keep it forever, just have to decide how you will live it.
Totally agree. And I intend to live feral and free :).
02:32:41
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz* David, I am not sure what do you mean by safe slavery but I opt for freedom anytime over any form of slavery. I would never live in a glorified zoo. It's freedom or death for me. Simple as that. I understand the perils of acts of nature on human kind. You have my sympathies and I always hope for the best for everyone's life, liberty and property. Having said that, if you decide to live in a boat, I presume hurricanes come part of the package. Similarly for those that work in a mine or a submarine. There is always a chance of not coming back on the surface and such people who willing opt for that line of work very well know about the risks and challenges that are ahead of them. I know words can easy to quote than in reality but I cannot say much about alligators if I am living in a swamp. I was referring to my plan for future if I were to live on a floating vessel in a marina or the sea when talking to Ben Silone. We all as individuals are owners of our destiny and views on life. Also I am not sure if you have read the vision and mission of Atlas Island and this related telegram group. Our final goal is to live middle of the sea in a phased and rational manner. I would also suggest to refer to "Demolition Man" movie and "Game of Thrones" original series that refer to free folk in their plot. You will then see where I am coming from :). Cheers.02:43:58
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz* David, I am not sure what do you mean by safe slavery but I opt for freedom anytime over any form of slavery. I would never live in a glorified zoo. It's freedom or death for me. Simple as that. I understand the perils of acts of nature on human kind. You have my sympathies and I always hope for the best for everyone's life, liberty and property. Having said that, if you decide to live in a boat, I presume hurricanes come part of the package. Similarly for those that work in a mine or a submarine. There is always a chance of not coming back on the surface and such people who willing opt for that line of work very well know about the risks and challenges that are ahead of them. I know words are easy to quote than in reality but I cannot say much about alligators if I am living in a swamp. I was referring to my plan for future if I were to live on a floating vessel in a marina or the sea when talking to Ben Silone. We all as individuals are owners of our destiny and views on life. Also I am not sure if you have read the vision and mission of Atlas Island and this related telegram group. Our final goal is to live middle of the sea in a phased and rational manner. I would also suggest to refer to "Demolition Man" movie and "Game of Thrones" original series that refer to free folk in their plot. You will then see where I am coming from :). Cheers.02:44:18
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz* David, I am not sure what do you mean by safe slavery but I opt for freedom anytime over any form of slavery. I would never live in a glorified zoo. It's freedom or death for me. Simple as that. I understand the perils of acts of nature on human kind. You have my sympathies and I always hope for the best for everyone's life, liberty and property. Having said that, if you decide to live in a boat, I presume hurricanes come part of the package. Similarly for those that work in a mine or a submarine. There is always a chance of not coming back on the surface and such people who willingly opt for that line of work very well know about the risks and challenges that are ahead of them. I know words are easy to quote than in reality but I cannot say much about alligators if I am living in a swamp. I was referring to my plan for future if I were to live on a floating vessel in a marina or the sea when talking to Ben Silone. We all as individuals are owners of our destiny and views on life. Also I am not sure if you have read the vision and mission of Atlas Island and this related telegram group. Our final goal is to live middle of the sea in a phased and rational manner. I would also suggest to refer to "Demolition Man" movie and "Game of Thrones" original series that refer to free folk in their plot. You will then see where I am coming from :). Cheers.03:53:00
@telegram_5671509393:t2bot.ioRobin Vaz* David, I am not sure what do you mean by safe slavery but I opt for freedom anytime over any form of slavery. I would never live in a glorified zoo. It's freedom or death for me. Simple as that. I understand the perils of acts of nature on human kind. You have my sympathies and I always hope for the best for everyone's life, liberty and property. Having said that, if you decide to live in a boat, I presume hurricanes come part of the package. Similarly for those that work in a mine or a submarine. There is always a chance of not coming back on the surface and such people who willingly opt for that line of work very well know about the risks and challenges that are ahead of them. I know words are easy to quote than in reality but I cannot say much about alligators if I am living in a swamp. I was referring to my plan for future if I were to live on a floating vessel in a marina or the sea when talking to Ben Silone. We all as individuals are owners of our destiny and views on life. Also I am not sure if you have read the vision and mission statements of Atlas Island and this related telegram group. Our final goal is to live middle of the sea in a phased and rational manner. I would also suggest to refer to "Demolition Man" movie and "Game of Thrones" original series that refer to free folk in their plot. You will then see where I am coming from :). Cheers.03:53:42

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