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Particl Proposals

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11 Nov 2019
21:33:17@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <SteveMcKing>

What do you think about a holiday campaign to boost marketplace interest & revenue?

“If you’re here for the tech, consider purchasing your (Christmas, Kwanza, Chinese New Year) gifts off of Part’s private, decentralized marketplace!”

21:41:33@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <complexx>

i think onboarding buyers makes no sense at this point when the marketplace is not user friendly/slick/fast enough, improve the app first, then maybe in a year from now start marketing when particl desktop is reworked or there is a standalone mobile light client which leaves out all the crypto crap

22:12:14@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <SteveMcKing>

@complexx I understand the sentiment of Particl Marketplace not being ready for grandma.

However, I think an opportunity exists to spread awareness throughout the current crypto community, increase sales (making it more worthwhile) for sellers, get the word out to not just buyers, but new sellers, speculators, developers and anyone who might be interested in contributing to the Part privacy platform.

Doing this will in turn allow the project to grow and the cycle will continue, so that we can more quickly get back in the top 25 where we belong. 🙂

12 Nov 2019
22:39:37@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <crypto_pepe>

^ the product is never going to be “perfect,” better to release what we have so we can draw in those who want to be a part of the project (and potentially help improve it) rather than endlessly add features in the hopes of being an overnight success

13 Nov 2019
13:43:19@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <CaptainSkywalker>

Can we have particl on ledger live ? I alrdy have them on my ledger but its kinda annoying not beeing able to see it on my ledger live. Or is this sth the leder team needs to integrate ?

13:47:22@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <yasabi>

that would be the ledger team. and if it is on ledger live then you won’t be able to stake your holdings. however, the particl team should really work on integrating hw devices like the ledger nano into the desktop app. it’s annoying to use particl-qt to manage a staking wallet and particl-desktop for the marketplace.

14:21:42@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <CaptainSkywalker>

Ledger live is just an Interface

14:21:56@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <CaptainSkywalker>

Shouldnt be that much of a deal

14:22:12@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <CaptainSkywalker>

I will email the ledger team maybe they answer

14:22:52@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <CaptainSkywalker>

And yea people want an" all in one device"

14:24:12@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <CaptainSkywalker>

We are in the post smartphone era

16 Nov 2019
16:54:33@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <Xades>

We should consider a dapp to compete with patreon. They just raised rates, and from my naive viewpoint it seems like it would be fairly easy to add subscription/broadcast content to subscribers type of features to particl. Particl based patreon would be better than normal patreon - no risk of a leak of your identity if you subscribe to furry porn animation or whatever.

18:01:53@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <SteveMcKing>

^ That’s a cool idea. Reminded me of this. https://bitcoinist.com/patreon-jordan-peterson-bitcoin/

18:02:50@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <SteveMcKing>

@Xades I think every app would be better on Particl, lol. Privacy for the win.

18:21:49@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <Xades>

Some apps would be a lot more work than others, I am hoping that Patreon would be an easy one. Also, some probably have better crossover audiences with the marketplace audience - I’m guessing that people willing to support via patreon are also probably willing to buy on marketplace.

17 Nov 2019
12:48:20@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <B3N27>

Forwarded from rutherford_bot: <Masterdon> Just need to ask… what is the difference of having something like in wallet vs simpleswap? is it possible… if it would cost fees can we have a free option (simpleswap) and a option with a small fee but more currency swaps available (Stealthx) or is it just not worth it?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391967609664307201/645602536858058753/Screenshot_2019-11-17_Anonymous_crypto_exchange_Free_from_sign-ups_and_providing_personal_data_Limit.png

12:48:21@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <B3N27>

Forwarded from rutherford_bot: <Masterdon> I don’t think people would care about having the option of paying a small fee if they had more swap options over just bitcoin swaps via simpleswap for now untill we get more pairings

16:06:09@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <Xades>

Simpleswap may have enough sway with Bittrex to ask for an xmr/part pairing, if they think they will be generating enough volume. Alternately simpleswap could just host the trades themselves - keep a pool of xmr and part on hand to settle trades, and restock when the pools get low.

17:47:06@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <Kiwipanda>

We could just make otc service for US buyers (re @rutherford_bot: <Xades> Simpleswap may have enough sway with Bittrex to ask for an xmr/part pairing, if they think they will be generating enough volume. Alternately simpleswap could just host the trades themselves - keep a pool of xmr and part on hand to settle trades, and restock when the pools get low.)

18 Nov 2019
01:48:07@pieterttje:matrix.orgpieterttjei think the only way to get any sort of traction is for listing fees to become zero, or listing fees to be distributed to people that want to list items which can be retrieved anonymously in client. Are you working on this is my question to team? and if not, why not exactly because i feel its part of the reason why this platform has no adoption yet. Coins for fees can be put in a pool, retrieved from stakers. I'd say 50% of the total network stakes (at least) should be distributed for free to people that want to sell on the platform, not for miners "fees are low" is not a valid argument as any fee, even if its just a cent or less will be an obstacle for people to even start trying On listing the item, you can provide two options, being -- List for free (there may be a waiting line so it can take some time for your item to get listed) or pay fee and get listed immediately
02:12:20@pieterttje:matrix.orgpieterttjeIt also removes the argument from maximalists that you have to buy into a different coin in order to use the platform
06:34:36@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <enum4_el1sh>

or at least charge the listing fees after the transaction is completed

09:27:38@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <genuinelyfx>

waiting lines? I think they can pay a buck a month than wait for pools, which btw might hurt privacy

09:27:46@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <genuinelyfx>

also, they have to buy part for the escrow

09:28:39@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <genuinelyfx>

waiting lines are for centralized, manual processing services…it’s a tough pill to swallow

09:34:41@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <genuinelyfx>

the idea is to have genuine sellers who accept orders on the marketplace, no spam listings with no follow through

09:35:03@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <genuinelyfx>

that would deter buyers, scrolling through empty listings

09:35:42@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <genuinelyfx>

more products will come when buyers will come, and vice versa

09:37:02@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <genuinelyfx>

in my experience, it’s a really crappy experience when you find something you want/need and the seller doesn’t follow through

09:54:54@rutherford:matrix.orgrutherford <dros>

The concern is known. But if you take into account that our MAD escrow is mandatory for a trade that needs no 3rd party of trust a listing fee becomes a non-event. It is the price you pay to be not only your own bank but also cutting out the middleman and having more money in your pocket at the end.


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