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4 Dec 2018
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം)
In reply to @shirish:matrix.org
please share the relevant info. while sharing a dumpsheet or a hardware specsheet. Without relevant info. it's hard to tell what you mean by sharing some info.
Can you pick one and display the relevant info only...
16:33:34
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishI should have been more clear. What I meant was, for e.g. you have shared info. about a TV tuner card if my reading is not wrong. from LIFEVIEW LV5T NOT ONLY TV USB DVB-T DELUXE, LV5TDLX DVB-T USB, LV5TDELUXE17:43:58
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishI remember lifeview TV tuner cards from years before.17:44:20
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishThe problem is for most noobs or newbies who want to know about free software compatibility they will neither know the company name or the URL from where they can order the stuff. Both hnode.org and we as free software advocates should be sharing this info. as well so its easier for the guy to use the product.17:46:55
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishthere is another side of the question which I feel needs to be more validated, for e.g. say between 1/10 how would you rate the card's performance on Trisquel.17:48:18
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishhave you tried any other distro, if yes what was your experience on that ?17:48:42
5 Dec 2018
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം)We should think about having a hardware test lab for the purpose with cooperation from Free Software Organizations.11:11:17
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം)Trisquel is based on ubuntu and the free software compatibilty , whether free firmware is avaiable or not is the main question in hnode and Trisquel, Parabola,PureOS and Debian which are the only truly free distros are used by Hnode to test the hardware devices.11:14:11
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishI know about trisquel but only on a surfacial level.17:27:05
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishFrom what I remember it's basically ubuntu derivative with GNU blessings, more free software oriented17:28:01
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishif I'm not wrong.17:28:04
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം) Hnode gives a test report of whether a device works with os like Trisquel which by default denies installation of nonfree firmwares. Also Trisquel by itself filters all nonfree code from Ubuntu and doesn't have any privacy issues like Ubuntu 's activity log that sends user information to canonical server. 18:08:39
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം) https://gitlab.com/tanzeem/TanzeemsFreeSoftwareActivities/blob/master/trisquel-experience.md 18:11:02
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം)Thats a Trisquel installation experience checking how well an hp laptop supports Free Software18:12:18
6 Dec 2018
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishI do know about FSF's stand on non-free drivers. That is one of the reasons that people are looking at RISC-V if we can get performance and free. open-source drivers from either RISC-V, Sifive or any of its partners.06:28:26
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishwithout any performance hits.06:28:57
* @shirish:matrix.orgshirish looking at nvidia06:29:04
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishof course it will take time but that is the idea at least from what is being shown, whether they will be able to achieve that is yet to be known. No backdoors, no nothing.06:29:55
7 Dec 2018
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം)Download letter2icfoss-shrug.md17:46:39
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം)@all please check this draft letter on setting up hardware lab17:47:37
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishlooks good to me.17:50:18
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishthe only thing I would suggest is talk of support and warranty more.17:51:16
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishA business case could be made if we could do something better than existing devices. Most devices for e.g. mobile phones have a warranty of 1 year, could we exceed that and do we hava capability of that.17:52:15
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishSame in laptops as well. If we want to be there, we would have to talk in the horizon of 5 years support or something on those lines. Most do 1-2 years warranty.17:53:07
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishIt only makes sense if we can provide something better than existing models and have enough bandwidth.17:53:35
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം)see tommorrow, insha Allah. Good night18:08:26
9 Dec 2018
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം) Hyperbola - News: Hyperbola is officially accepted by FSF as a Free System Distribution
https://www.hyperbola.info/news/hyperbola-is-officially-accepted-by-fsf-as-a-free-system-distribution/
08:53:54
22 Dec 2018
@ignujee:matrix.orgiGNUjee(തൻസീം)
In reply to @ignujee:matrix.org
@all please check this draft letter on setting up hardware lab
The letter was send to ICFOSS. Got reply that ICFOSS is already setting up a open hardware Lab, which covers most of the objectives cited.
16:32:47
27 Dec 2018
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29 Dec 2018
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