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19 Jul 2020
@luplex:matrix.orgLudwig (matrix.org)I'm sure matrix could be integrated a lot better with existing systems. My prime example is "scheduling a meeting in-chat through matrix". But you really need a stable ecosystem to push for changes in that direction.19:58:42
@luplex:matrix.orgLudwig (matrix.org)I mean: A company would only want integration with the system they already use, not with weird other systems. GSuite is able to pull this off because they own all the individual products, and they are very often used together anyways. Most normal people wouldn't want their email app to suddenly have a chat tab that they will never use.20:00:39
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoYou say that, but thunderbird is a matrix client20:01:38
@luplex:matrix.orgLudwig (matrix.org)Yes, but (veery close to) nobody uses that.20:06:29
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoWell, it is not very finished... I just wanted to disagree and if I had my calendar next to my chat app, I wouldn't mind that. Send invites and ask about schedules via matrix20:14:56
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunomesomething something typed rooms20:17:26
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoI don't think I even need a typed room for that. I already send those invites as pretty normal emails atm20:18:39
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunomewiht typed rooms you could easily define a room which is then a callendar for yourself, for example20:22:54
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoYeah, but I'm mostly interested in sending the invite and discussing it. Calendar can still be CalDAV20:23:37
20 Jul 2020
@luplex:matrix.orgLudwig (matrix.org)I'd be happy with collaborative editing of a single event (time/place details etc.) Invites and so on already work through email. But people (I) don't really use email to comunicate with their friends, and a lot of people don't know about caldav invites.06:11:01
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@kb1rd:kb1rd.netKB1RDDid someone say collaborative editing? 😉17:51:46
25 Jul 2020
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3 Aug 2020
@AndresCuccaro:matrix.orgAndyhttps://lawsofux.com/ Great site with lots of advices to keep in mind. It's a bit abstract, but still highly recommended ;)03:58:25
@kilian:nio.chatKilianThat's pretty cool!07:21:42
@kilian:nio.chatKilian

Productivity soars when a computer and its users interact at a pace (<400ms) that ensures that neither has to wait on the other.

How do I ensure that user's work fast so the computer doesn't have to wait? 😄

07:21:57
@deepbluev7:neko.devNico
In reply to @AndresCuccaro:matrix.org
https://lawsofux.com/

Great site with lots of advices to keep in mind. It's a bit abstract, but still highly recommended ;)
Here is a similar site, that shows how bad user interfaces are designed and why they are bad: https://userinyerface.com/
10:03:44
@luplex:matrix.orgLudwig (matrix.org)
In reply to @kilian:nio.chat

Productivity soars when a computer and its users interact at a pace (<400ms) that ensures that neither has to wait on the other.

How do I ensure that user's work fast so the computer doesn't have to wait? 😄

good design that makes it super easy to make good decisions!
10:23:42
@luplex:matrix.orgLudwig (matrix.org)But actually, computers are so much faster than humans, so idk10:23:57
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoMost websites need more than 400ms to load...10:29:44
@AndresCuccaro:matrix.orgAndy I had forgotten about this site! So annoying, lmao 12:47:04
@AndresCuccaro:matrix.orgAndy
In reply to @deepbluev7:neko.dev
Here is a similar site, that shows how bad user interfaces are designed and why they are bad: https://userinyerface.com/
* I had forgotten about this site! So annoying, lmao
12:47:08
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoIt's perfect!12:54:35
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