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This week, we all check out a different client in detail! (2020-06-16) --- This is a common space for everyone doing design work throughout the matrix ecosystem. The goal is to create a common ground for design decisions in Matrix.36 Servers

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12 Oct 2020
@spiritcroc:matrix.orgSpiritCroc joined the room.21:22:58
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org) * I don't think that that room being created as soon as the user registers is interesting. But instead that the clients nudged users that this kind of room can be created, and even offered to create the default one.21:23:00
13 Oct 2020
@kilian:nio.chatKilianI also have a Scratchpad room with just myself on my HS 😄 08:10:19
@kilian:nio.chatKilianTelegram has a few additional great UI affordances in that regard though. No extra confirmations regarding other users and some extra messages. Definitely seems pretty well thought-out.08:11:05
@florian:wolkenplanet.deFlorian MateusRodCosta (matrix.org): what does the Telegram client provide to make that room more convenient, is it just an action menu on messages to “save this message”, i.e. similar to the “forward message” option of Element, but with the pre-selected “Saved Messages” room? 09:53:19
@tulir:maunium.nettuliryes, it's at the top of the list when you use the forwarding feature09:54:38
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@florian:wolkenplanet.deFlorianoh, clever!10:26:25
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)Well, it's more discoverable too, since it's a default feature11:25:41
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)Also, a thing that I noticed recently: on Telegram you can schedule messages to be send on chats. Doing that on the Saved Messages chat actually acts as a reminder11:26:38
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org) * Also, a thing that I noticed recently: on Telegram you can schedule messages to be send on chats. Doing that on the Saved Messages room actually acts as a reminder11:26:54
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org) * Also, a thing that I noticed recently: on Telegram you can schedule messages to be send on chats. Doing that on the Saved Messages chat actually acts as a reminder11:27:03
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org) So, MTRNord said the other day that some users don't even know that it's possible to have Telegram-style channels on Matrix 11:50:46
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoWhat is a Telegram-style channel?11:51:15
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)Since 1:1 chats seems pretty intuitive, I would think having presets for rooms interesting11:51:17
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)Read-only room where everybody can join, but only a few people can send messages11:51:39
@deepbluev7:neko.devNico
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Read-only room where everybody can join, but only a few people can send messages
Ah, announcement rooms?
11:52:05
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)
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Ah, announcement rooms?
Yup
11:52:22
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoKinda like this:11:53:30
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@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoRedacted or Malformed Event11:53:37
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)So, like, it would be cool to have presets like: Channel preset: Readable by everyone including guests, Everybody can join as long as they have the link, only mods/admins can talk, E2E opt-in, suggest creating an alias11:53:55
@deepbluev7:neko.devNicoIf you have too many presets it gets confusing11:54:45
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)Yeah, it would make more sense to only have "Announcements", "Discussion" and "Notes"11:55:36
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)Announcements being the channel-like, discussion being a normal one and notes being a mainly me-only chat11:56:09
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)The room creator ui just would chose the settings based on the preset11:56:47
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org) These would pretty much match Telegram's channels, a normal group in any chat app and Telegram-style Saved Notes 11:58:12
@MateusRodCosta:matrix.orgMateusRodCosta (matrix.org)
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Yeah, it would make more sense to only have "Announcements", "Discussion" and "Notes"
* These would pretty much match Telegram's channels, a normal group in any chat app and Telegram-style Saved Notes
12:05:51
@kilian:nio.chatKilian
In reply to @florian:wolkenplanet.de
MateusRodCosta (matrix.org): what does the Telegram client provide to make that room more convenient, is it just an action menu on messages to “save this message”, i.e. similar to the “forward message” option of Element, but with the pre-selected “Saved Messages” room?
You also don't have to confirm sending in some contexts (I think when forwarding messages).
13:00:16
14 Oct 2020
@lascapiriot:matrix.orgPascal
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Yeah, it would make more sense to only have "Announcements", "Discussion" and "Notes"
Sounds good 😍
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