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26 Jan 2023
@biehdc:reactos.orgHyperbased in Hyperspacerunning a bridge between 2 servers is really not ideal even if its double puppetting 06:05:06
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@0x/:l1qu1d.net0x1a8510f2
In reply to @biehdc:reactos.org
>Also need to work out p2p <-> non-p2p matrix 'bridging' - shouldn't be nearly as hard as the others
i would like to work on that, but i have zero pointers yet on how to get it done in a good way
I imagine it should be simple if we figure out something better than full mesh federation. As soon as connectivity between every server in the room isn't required, all that's left to figure out is how to allow servers to have multiple names (both an FQDN and pinecone address) and then any HS in the room supporting both pinecone and the current federation will become a bridge automatically.
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@ninchuka:envs.netninchukaI hope matrix gets optimised for massive rooms like HQ more since that could be normal with p2p 😅22:04:21
@0x/:l1qu1d.net0x1a8510f2* I imagine it should be simple if we figure out something better than full mesh federation. As soon as connectivity between every server in the room isn't required, all that's left to figure out is how to allow servers to have multiple names (both an FQDN and pinecone address - unless we standardize a new DNS record pointing to pinecone addresses but that then requires DNS connectivity from pinecone nodes which isn't ideal) and then any HS in the room supporting both pinecone and the current federation will become a bridge automatically.22:06:56
@devonh:one.ems.hostDevon Dmytrowhy would massive rooms be more normal on p2p than howit is today?22:10:33
@devonh:one.ems.hostDevon Dmytro * why would massive rooms be more normal on p2p than how it is today?22:10:36
@ninchuka:envs.netninchukawell instead of a few hundred users on 1 HS it'll be a few hundred HS's22:11:31
@ninchuka:envs.netninchukaif its kept the same way with ful lmesh22:11:48
@ninchuka:envs.netninchuka* if its kept the same way with full mesh22:11:56
@devonh:one.ems.hostDevon Dmytroah, massive in terms of HS count. right22:12:16
@ninchuka:envs.netninchukayup22:12:57
@ninchuka:envs.netninchukashould've been more precise22:13:03
@devonh:one.ems.hostDevon DmytroI was thinking you meant in terms of user count being different22:13:04
@0x/:l1qu1d.net0x1a8510f2Well, hopefully matrix P2P will bring more users to matrix also :P23:16:36
27 Jan 2023
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@biehdc:reactos.orgHyperbased in Hyperspace
In reply to @0x/:l1qu1d.net
I imagine it should be simple if we figure out something better than full mesh federation. As soon as connectivity between every server in the room isn't required, all that's left to figure out is how to allow servers to have multiple names (both an FQDN and pinecone address - unless we standardize a new DNS record pointing to pinecone addresses but that then requires DNS connectivity from pinecone nodes which isn't ideal) and then any HS in the room supporting both pinecone and the current federation will become a bridge automatically.
i am interested in the latter where one core answers to multiple addresses
but i will come back to this once time is allocated there
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@sertonix:matrix.orgSertonix It would be nice if every matrix server could be a p2p bridge while being a normal matrix server.
I think that would be easier with a new syntax for p2p users.
Maybe some character in the name that is forbidden for everyone else.
Or just an empty domain name. It would be within the normal syntax but would also mean that there is no server. eg. #username:
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@saces:c-base.orgsacesmaybe a bridge that maps a static endpoint into a matrix room.22:56:58
28 Jan 2023
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