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6 May 2023
@etomte:matrix.orgTomteIf I wanted to set up my own static peer to use instead of the one provided, is there a site someone can point me to explaining how to do that?19:47:59
@networkexception:chat.upi.linetworkExceptionyou can easily run the docker container, I can give you a compose file if that helps19:49:27
@wyndix:envs.netWyndix Can't wait for P2P ElementX already :) 21:06:15
@wyndix:envs.netWyndix To be honest, the thing I love about Pinecone is that it solves Matrix's dependency on DNS, cool P2P apps aside. 21:07:07
@biehdc:reactos.orgHyperbased in Hyperspacelooks like we have the same goal, thats also my no1 reason for pinecone21:08:01
@wyndix:envs.netWyndix DNS is unreliable and closed, so I'm very glad to see Matrix stepping up 22:11:58
7 May 2023
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@jivan:opaline.ukJivan Pal πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Wyndix: Genuine question, what's unreliable about DNS? 02:44:00
@jivan:opaline.ukJivan Pal πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§Do you just mean that it isn't censorship-resistant, or something else?02:44:24
@biehdc:reactos.orgHyperbased in Hyperspaceit is not only just not censorship-resistant, an entity can seize the domain alongside the vps you likely have and impersonate your server05:31:50
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@wyndix:envs.netWyndix
In reply to @jivan:opaline.uk
Wyndix: Genuine question, what's unreliable about DNS?

Mostly, propagating times are variableΒ 

08:39:48
@jivan:opaline.ukJivan Pal πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Wyndix: The only variable is what the DNS admin sets their TTLs to. How is someone setting theirs too high for their use case an issue of reliability? "There are two hard things in computing: cache invalidation and naming things." 11:51:04
@jivan:opaline.ukJivan Pal πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Hyperbased in Hyperspace: Very valid point, thanks 11:51:29
@wyndix:envs.netWyndix

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@tommaso.missoni:matrix.orgTommaso changed their display name from Tommaso OoO - Sick to Tommaso.16:51:25
@silas:valha.laSilas
In reply to @jivan:opaline.uk
Wyndix: The only variable is what the DNS admin sets their TTLs to. How is someone setting theirs too high for their use case an issue of reliability? "There are two hard things in computing: cache invalidation and naming things."
You forgot the second problem, off-by-one errors
19:53:09
@silas:valha.laSilas Some of the tampering issues can be mitigated with things like DNSSEC and DNS over TLS or HTTPS, but generally yeah if your threat model includes someone capable of seizing your domain DNS is not great 19:55:58
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@zacchae:matrix.orgzacchaeI read arewep2pyet.com and the blogs linked therin. Are there any use cases which are supported right now? (I have only linux comps and linux phones)22:37:51
@zacchae:matrix.orgzacchaefor non ios/android, the p2p blog links to p2p.matrix.org, which just redirects to matrix.org22:39:38
@devonh:one.ems.hostDevon DmytroEverything is still work-in-progress. We don't officially support any use cases right now. Though we do provide demo apps for mobile platforms.22:39:56
@devonh:one.ems.hostDevon DmytroRecently the team has been working on a lot of Dendrite refactoring which is all starting to come together. πŸ™‚ The refactoring is aimed at making Dendrite more flexible to make experimenting with things like p2p or portable accounts much easier, which should also help them progress faster than otherwise22:48:59
@zacchae:matrix.orgzacchaeNeat. Sounds like it's still a long way off, but I'm very excied to see where it goes23:01:24
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8 May 2023
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