| 17 Jul 2020 |
 @rakthegoose:matrix.org | senko have you seen/tried out keybase? | 16:07:21 |
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| 18 Jul 2020 |
 ellyp | Keybase censors I think | 00:23:52 |
 ЯΞVУ | If it's not self hosted, it's likely gonna be subject to rules and regulations per the host | 00:42:06 |
| ЯΞVУ | Which is usually restrictive these days with the current climate | 00:43:23 |
| ЯΞVУ | Most any host if they get wise slightly to what's going on likely just flag as "piracy" and shut things down, even if you was to explain the situation and prove no piracy. The users to this project are big enough to hit radars as a small community so they would prob investigate the details and maybe make a choice on to rock the boat or kick off. I just hope this cat & mouse game resolves with the devs and leads not getting tired and abandoning | 00:48:01 |
| ЯΞVУ | Even with self hosting if ppl are persistent enough there is other methods to start hitting | 00:49:12 |
| ЯΞVУ | * Most any host if they get wise slightly to what's going on likely just flag as "piracy" and shut things down, even if you was to explain the situation and prove no piracy. The users to this project are big enough to hit radars as a small community so they would prob investigate the details and maybe make a choice on to not rock the boat or kick off. I just hope this cat & mouse game resolves with the devs and leads not getting tired and abandoning | 00:51:56 |
| ЯΞVУ | * Most any host if they get wise slightly to what's going on likely just flag as "piracy" and shut things down, even if you was to explain the situation and prove no piracy. The users to this project are big enough to hit radars as a small community so they would prob investigate the details and maybe make a choice on to not rock the boat or just kick off. I just hope this cat & mouse game resolves with the devs and leads not getting tired and abandoning | 00:52:17 |
| ЯΞVУ | Lots of coms/social media platforms are going through some vast changes and a lot of ppl are both moving and host are updating ToS/ToU | 00:54:04 |
| ЯΞVУ | * Lots of coms/social media platforms are going through some vast changes and a lot of ppl are moving and host are updating ToS/ToU | 00:56:01 |
| ellyp | I remember when platforms used to be libertarian, wtf happened? | 00:56:37 |
| ЯΞVУ | A lot has changed, but if I had to put it in the least amount of words in hopes not to spark a big debate, it would just say a number, 2016 and leave it at that. | 01:33:47 |
| ЯΞVУ | * A lot has changed, but if I had to put it in the least amount of words in hopes not to spark a big debate, I would just say a number, 2016 and leave it at that. | 01:34:29 |
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 raidshadowlegends | Still think riot is the one | 20:48:20 |
| ЯΞVУ | My vote as well, The one that will last anyways , but ppl like the fancy features | 21:00:27 |
| ЯΞVУ | I'ma stay here and do more research into alternative clients cause I think in the end we will eventually end up back here cause it's self hosted decentralized | 21:01:45 |
| ЯΞVУ | May not be pretty, but it's the ugly that won't ever go away, lol | 21:02:40 |
| ЯΞVУ | BBS and IRC was not exactly pretty either, but they still relevant and around today | 21:03:19 |
| ЯΞVУ | Could always just do a forum with the domain they have, and have a built in chat to go with it and call it done | 21:06:42 |
| ЯΞVУ | Either way I'm in the same boat with Discord so it's something I've already been doing since discords PR about the changes | 21:08:24 |
| ЯΞVУ | Guilded gets popular the MSM will rain down negative press on them too and they will cave cause they wanna make money, stuff like this is where open source shines. | 21:09:29 |
| 19 Jul 2020 |
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| 20 Jul 2020 |
 razereign | Well, this has significantly less features. | 01:47:53 |
 lazyamerican | I guess the more features you have the less likely it is you can host "grey" content (total bullshit really but we live in a metoo world....says about all that needs saying about "justice" or anything really) | 01:59:22 |
 Atomos | Stop spewing bs lol | 11:05:28 |
